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Gary H 02-15-2023 06:07 PM

Hydraulic roller cam cores
 
Trying to get a Hydraulic roller camshaft ground and NOBODY has Pontiac cores available, and no ETA on any too. Anybody have any leads? I need one for a customer I'm building a 525' engine for. I need something in the 250ish intake and 260ish exhaust range. I can get solid roller cams but I'd rather go hydraulic if possible.

25stevem 02-15-2023 06:28 PM

How about buying a used solid roller of more lift and duration then you need and then getting it reground?

Have you tried Jones cam designs?

tom s 02-15-2023 06:46 PM

Have you tried LSM?Tom

Formulajones 02-15-2023 07:00 PM

May try giving Paul a call at Koerner Racing.

Steve C. 02-15-2023 07:32 PM

Give a call to Tim Goolsby directly at Bullet Racing Cams, ext 102.. He has repaired and re-ground many cams. If you find a core that needs repair it depends on damage, depth of hardness and profile. The price will be right.
Personally a few years ago I had Tim regrind a damaged solid roller cam for $157.50 + freight..

https://www.bulletcams.com/


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slowbird 02-15-2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 25stevem (Post 6408392)
Have you tried Jones cam designs?

He's crazy expensive

64speed 02-16-2023 09:02 AM

Erson has them

racegto65 02-16-2023 01:22 PM

I got the same answer yesterday trying to order a cam. I deal with George at Clay Smith and he told me he used to get cores by the pallet and now they are only coming 10 to 20 at a time.

TCSGTO 02-16-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tom s (Post 6408395)
Have you tried LSM?Tom

Fairly recently LSM had some mid 250/260 .400 lobe cams ground and in stock. I don’t remember the exact specs.

Gary H 02-16-2023 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tom s (Post 6408395)
Have you tried LSM?Tom

I left them a message. I'll try again tomorrow.

Gary H 02-16-2023 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 25stevem (Post 6408392)
How about buying a used solid roller of more lift and duration then you need and then getting it reground?

Have you tried Jones cam designs?

Jones didn't have any. Also, when I spoke to Bullet they said they couldn't grind a hydraulic cam profile from a solid cam core used or otherwise.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a solid roller cam instead. I spoke with multiple Pontiac racers at the Sick Week race today at Gainesville today and they all are running solid rollers. Driving them hundreds of miles too.

tom s 02-16-2023 09:21 PM

Dont give up on LSM,they did a RA V cam for me.tom

25stevem 02-17-2023 07:16 AM

I would really love to know why Bullet said that gods used solid roller could not be re-ground into a hydro roller?
Did they give any explanation as to why that is?

Don 79 TA 02-17-2023 09:19 AM

what about a mild solid roller profile with the hyd lifters?

Formulajones 02-17-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary H (Post 6408673)
Jones didn't have any. Also, when I spoke to Bullet they said they couldn't grind a hydraulic cam profile from a solid cam core used or otherwise.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a solid roller cam instead. I spoke with multiple Pontiac racers at the Sick Week race today at Gainesville today and they all are running solid rollers. Driving them hundreds of miles too.

That doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling, lol. 100's of miles isn't much for a street car. I've noticed most of those guys running drag and drive events are also lashing valves twice a day to help them live. Basically tightening them up to near zero lash for the street drive, and then opening them back up for the race. That's not really conducive to what I'd consider a street car, nor would I want to go through all that trouble.

But hey, if guys want to go through that all the time, have at it. It's fun to watch but those guys really torture themselves to make those "race" cars survive. ;)

Dad did the solid roller thing on the street, Tony spec'd something that was supposed to be soft on the valvetrain, and only needed 240lbs. on the seats, then used Crowers (very expensive) pin oiled rollers, and was a tight lash setup to start with. It lasted about 5000 miles on the street before a lifter went south. Not even remotely interested in solid rollers anymore for a street car.

Gary H 02-17-2023 10:06 PM

OK, I got a hydraulic roller from Mark at Luhn Performance. He had one in stock that was pretty much the specs I was looking for. Also ordered his oil pump for the engine as well.

GoatZillaRacing 02-17-2023 10:36 PM

We have several at https://pontiacspeedshop.com/camshaf...raulic-roller/


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