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Old 01-18-2007, 04:39 PM
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Clarification: The car sold for $70K. The Buyer paid 10% for $77K. I don't believe Greg bought it, but I could be wrong. There is money to be maid off this car. I think it's worth as little as $95K and as much as $125K TODAY, RIGHT NOW. You can second guess which venue to sell at all day long and it's nothing but speculation. I've got a buddy with a '67 Comet 427 R code car at Russo & Stelle Saturday. It'll be an interesting sale. It's perfect and Raven Black with red interior. Should be $150K minimum. But maybe the market is soft. I saw a lot of nice cars sell for low dollars at BJ. And some overpriced. That's the way it is!
Back to the GTO, I wouldn't have sold it this year had I not needed to. Plan was to own for two years were I (in my opinion) the RAIV's will really excell in price. Yes, I bought it to sell it, just not now. Yes, I am receiving med bills on surgery of one of my triplets. Major inner ear problems that once were thought to be minor. Blackbird...**** you and your attitude. Someday you will have a family member with problems and don't expect any sympathy from those around you for your display of callousnous. You started this crap with your prayer I loose my ass on this car. Well, your prayers are answered. I believe good things happen to those that treat others well and bad things happen to those that wish ill on others. To the rest of the Pontiac guys here, it was mostly a good experience and thanks for your help when I asked. I can say I owned a great one such as this and will always have found memories of it.
As to why the car never made it to the track, there were several issues. First, until recently it was not capable of making a succesful run (that is, not an embarrasing run). That was a combination of overheating, suspension and carburation. Not a negative against Ronb / Brian. The carb was not right and I knew that upon purchase. I received a -270 Q-Jet from Ron as promised which I used on a trade for a correct date code -273. With the value of the -270 & the 273 and restoration by Ruggles, I had almost $4K into a carb. The radiator was beyond repair and I thought it was the water pump diverter, not the radiator. Finally fixed that problem and it was capable of driving without melting. The rear springs were replaced with a used set from Mr. Bruno. That took care of wheel-hop which was so bad the exhaust was slamming gainst the body. So all that was taken care of. Problem two: the car was so damn nice, I couldn't take it to the track. The return road of our tracks have a lot of loose gravel. I've spent almost $400 fixing rock chips on the GTO lower rockers, and that's just from driving around my neighborhood. I wasn't afraid of anything at the track (engine / trans / rear are great) except rocks.
Finally, the car was placed on ebay @ $275K only to create hype. Some just didn't get it, some (Gregg did). There was over 10,000 hits on that ad. I've learned you don't want a car to stall on ebay and then show up at an auction. The hens on the block will tell everybody " that car didn't go past X on ebay". Some of those that have offered advice on selling the car probably have very little auction experience. Maybe they do. But it was my car and mine alone. I will say this, next time I go to BJ it won't be on a Wednesday. You take what they give you or you walk. Next time I will walk. But since I needed to sell it, I thought BJ would bring the most. And the only reason I got the GTO in was I had a '71 Charger R/T already in. And that was also a joke. I was on stage when Speed Channel went live. When they go live, they want to start with a new car. I had only 2 minutes 12-15 seconds on the block and was literally pushed off to make way for that VW THING. I was lot 405 and was supposed to be the lead in for Speed but the schedule was off. So, thinking I would do well with the GTO, I bought the Charger back. Had I known the GTO would have done so poorly, I would have dumped the Charger at a loss and bought the GTO back. But I couldn't do it with two cars. And since I didn't have a crystal ball, you make your choices and you have to live with them. The $70K price on that GTO still blows me away. And no, I have no reason to believe red / red was a problem. Somebody got one helluva deal. All I heard all week was it should be over $100K. A few stated $200K. But speculators are not bidders. I wish it was Gregg that won but my wife said it was somebody else.
Now when I get my finances back in order, I sure would like a '69 FB with a RAIV...!

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1969 Pontiac GTO
RAIV - M21 - 4.33:1
Matador Red / Red vinyl
PHS documented

1970 American Motors AMX
NHRA SS/H
390 - Jerico - 5.13:1
NHRA "Best Appearing"
10.03 @ 133.05 on 9" slicks