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Old 05-16-2005, 06:58 AM
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Besides price what is the difference between the CSR and the Meziere water pumps.

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Troy on my 69 Firebird I just relocated the alternator to the passenger side and the power steering belt worked fine. You just have to figure out how to get the alternator wiring over on the other side. If you need any help let me know.

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Old 05-24-2005, 04:10 PM
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Thanks Greg...will do.

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Hey 60Man, I know what your talking about. I really got lit up a couple years back shorting out the alternator. It melted my wristwatch band clean in half. Both pieces melted in to the skin and clung there. I had to pull both pieces out of the skin. Just another battle scare these injuns put you through...

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Old 05-16-2005, 07:13 AM
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Guess I need to replace the old Mr. Gasket belt drive WP. Was pulling 220 + on return road after some passes yesterday. Haven't made up my mind yet...

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Old 05-16-2005, 01:57 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Erik W:
Hey 60man. You need to update your profile. I could have sworn I saw you running 11's!! Got that thing running good! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Eric. Guess I should update the profile.

That is one sweet looking & bad ass 64 GTO you have Eric. I would love to see you and Jeff Raff side by side one day. See you at Norwalk or before..

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Old 05-26-2005, 12:16 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 60man:
Oh well.....I tried mounting the alt. on pass. side head and still have problems. After much work lowering the radiator(Griffin) mount for hose clearance on alt. the belt won't line up on crank pully. It lines up with the PS slot..can't win...Back to my seach for a manual bax....... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Troy,

To use the alt kit on the pass side you have to shorten the spacer due to the location of the pass head relative to the face of the block. It sits further forward than the drivers side. Other than that it should get you where you need to be.

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60Man, Yes you should get one. I used to run that blet drive deal & i got rid of it because it was doing exactly what your's is. I have the CSI/CSR one & love it.

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CSI from BOP-E, and I recently took the car on a 500+ mile cruise. Highest temp I saw was 194.

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Old 05-16-2005, 08:29 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 60man:
Guess I need to replace the old Mr. Gasket belt drive WP. Was pulling 220 + on return road after some passes yesterday. Haven't made up my mind yet... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I had the same problem saturday at the PSN with my moroso belt drive setup (saw 240 in the lights and shut it off at 100mph). I also have the same question re: CSR vs. Meziere.

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Might not mean squat, but had my Meziere for 4 1/2 years with no problems.

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Old 05-26-2005, 10:32 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 69ProBird:
Troy on my 69 Firebird I just relocated the alternator to the passenger side and the power steering belt worked fine. You just have to figure out how to get the alternator wiring over on the other side. If you need any help let me know. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh well.....I tried mounting the alt. on pass. side head and still have problems. After much work lowering the radiator(Griffin) mount for hose clearance on alt. the belt won't line up on crank pully. It lines up with the PS slot..can't win. PS has to come off--then no problem except steering a 2 ton car..
I used straight water & Water Wetter this time. It took 20-25 minuets to get to 220 but it still did and it's not that hot
Back to my seach for a manual bax.......

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Old 05-28-2005, 11:21 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lerry:
Hey 60Man, I know what your talking about. I really got lit up a couple years back shorting out the alternator. It melted my wristwatch band clean in half. Both pieces melted in to the skin and clung there. I had to pull both pieces out of the skin. Just another battle scare these injuns put you through... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep...hurts like hell..It melted mine along with the skin. Band was welded to the stud on the alternator..Kill swicth helps a lot if I can remember to "kill" it.

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Old 05-26-2005, 06:26 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wade Congdon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 60man:
Oh well.....I tried mounting the alt. on pass. side head and still have problems. After much work lowering the radiator(Griffin) mount for hose clearance on alt. the belt won't line up on crank pully. It lines up with the PS slot..can't win...Back to my seach for a manual bax....... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Troy,

To use the alt kit on the pass side you have to shorten the spacer due to the location of the pass head relative to the face of the block. It sits further forward than the drivers side. Other than that it should get you where you need to be. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Wade..I thought about that too. It appeared that alt. was all ready to close to head to do that. I'll try again when I am not pressed for time....have race tomorrow night...

I think I have a manual steering box I can use to..

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Old 05-28-2005, 04:06 AM
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I used the CSI for several years without a problem. Then I switched to a motor plate that mounts between the waterpump and the timing cover and the CSI wasn't going to work in my opinion due to the small hole for the impeller in the motor plate. I switched to the Meziere and have run it for two years without any problems. I believe both pumps would work fine in an application without a motor plate that mounts between the water pump and the timing cover.

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Thanks Scott

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One more vote for CSI pump, mine is great and a rebuild kit is about 15bucks if its ever needed.
I would never do it but Ive heard they work just fine on a street car as well.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by quicksilver97ta:
Were can I find that csi? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.bopengineering.com/beltdr..._topend3.shtml

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scott Esterle:
60Man, Yes you should get one. I used to run that blet drive deal & i got rid of it because it was doing exactly what your's is. I have the CSI/CSR one & love it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks Scott. I'll check them both out. I keep forgetting your extention..Would you email it or post it here.
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