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Old 12-21-2006, 08:30 PM
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Default weight X HP = ET

is there a basic formula for this?
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Old 12-21-2006, 08:37 PM
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http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php

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Old 12-21-2006, 09:45 PM
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My 60 foot time show me having 937 HP!! I wish!!

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Old 12-21-2006, 10:21 PM
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HP from ET (1/4 mile) = WEIGHT * (5.825/ET)^3 is the standard accepted equation.

455earlybird, I need to double check that page.
I think it might be for the time to get to 60 mph, instead of 60' time.

I'll double check it.

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Old 12-21-2006, 11:26 PM
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455earlybird, try it again and see what it is.

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350HP, are u sure it isn't on the low side now? Darnit!

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Old 12-21-2006, 11:52 PM
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Seems pretty darned accurate to me. It's probably one of the most conservative calculators iv'e seen online, and probably one of the most realistic.

My mph indicates 610 fwhp.
My ET indicates 640 fwhp.
My 60' (1.44) indicates 633 fwhp.

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Old 12-22-2006, 12:17 AM
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Seems pretty darned accurate to me. It's probably one of the most conservative calculators iv'e seen online, and probably one of the most realistic.

My mph indicates 610 fwhp.
My ET indicates 640 fwhp.
My 60' (1.44) indicates 633 fwhp.
damn your is front wheel drive? - those are pretty nice numbers

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Old 12-22-2006, 02:56 AM
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WOW I just put the hp#s of my old motor and the weight of my car and this calculator is real close.

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Old 12-22-2006, 09:15 AM
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damn your is front wheel drive? - those are pretty nice numbers

Only when I launch in reverse!

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I haven't seen any calculators on any web site that were accurate. On the other hand, the $8 Moroso slide rule is DEAD ON. I run within .05 of what it says every year after performance upgrades as well as a few others that have had their motors dyno'ed at BES. Now if you get your motor pumped on one of those happy dynos, all is out the window.


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Old 12-22-2006, 12:32 PM
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HP from MPH
355HP from 103MPH High12's
426HP from 112.4MPH lowest 12's
497HP from 123MPH lowest 11's
4xxHP from 11xMPH to-be-determined
5xxHP from 1xxMPH to-be-determined

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Old 12-22-2006, 01:10 PM
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John what are your ET/Weight stats and what is your HP?

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I haven't seen any calculators on any web site that were accurate. On the other hand, he $8 Moroso slide rule is DEAD ON. I run within .05 of what it says every year after performance upgrades as well as a few others that have had their motors dyno'ed at BES. Now if you get your motor pumped on one of those happy dynos, all is out the window.
GOOD TO HEAR! I GET THE SAME RESULTS BUT WALLACERACING IS PRETTY GOOD UNTIL I PUT IN MY 60ft TIMES TOO?: I WISH I HAD THAT POWER.

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Old 12-22-2006, 04:57 PM
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350HP, are u sure it isn't on the low side now? Darnit!
BILTIT a 350 RWHP means you are making 455+ HP at the flexplate! Using a driveline loss of 23% shows the 455hp. Not to shabby!

WOW, it is amazingly accurate in my combo!

*Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 3250 pounds and HP of 321 is 12.60 seconds and MPH of 106.32 MPH.

*Your Horsepower computed from your vehicle weight of 3250 pounds and MPH of 106.54 is 323.03. (106.54 was the best MPH last season)

*Your HP is 321.11 computed from your vehicle weight of 3250 pounds and ET of 12.60 seconds

BUT, my ET and MPH are not optimized as evident by my best 60' of 1.864 and the engine nosing over at the top of 3rd gear! It will be interesting to see what it shows when I run the car next Spring.

It shows my current FWHP is 417 which sounds cool. But with the new intake, 1/2 fuel line, and 3500 converter it should make a marked improvement! JD

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BILTIT a 350 RWHP means you are making 455+ HP at the flexplate! Using a driveline loss of 23% shows the 455hp. Not to shabby!

WOW, it is amazingly accurate in my combo!

*Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 3250 pounds and HP of 321 is 12.60 seconds and MPH of 106.32 MPH.

*Your Horsepower computed from your vehicle weight of 3250 pounds and MPH of 106.54 is 323.03. (106.54 was the best MPH last season)

*Your HP is 321.11 computed from your vehicle weight of 3250 pounds and ET of 12.60 seconds

BUT, my ET and MPH are not optimized as evident by my best 60' of 1.864 and the engine nosing over at the top of 3rd gear! It will be interesting to see what it shows when I run the car next Spring.

It shows my current FWHP is 417 which sounds cool. But with the new intake, 1/2 fuel line, and 3500 converter it should make a marked improvement! JD

HEY BRO, HOW YOU BEEN? & HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND YOURS!

Now on to the topic at hand! I must point out, (AND Mr. JOHN LANGERS WILL AGREE) These calculators and the moroso power speed calculators work their best when you totally have your suspension sorted out and are hooking well for your E.T. & M.P.H.!!!! Otherwise you're just spinning your wheels so to speak and won't get actual hard core data to go on!!! SO MAKE A PRIORITY TO GET THAT POWER TO THE GROUND FIRST AND FOREMOST!!!

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3250lbs [email protected], how much hp did I make???

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Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 905.74 rear wheel HP and 1,006.38 flywheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 805.55 rear wheel HP and 895.06 flywheel HP.

This is probably the minimal HP if the car is set up right.
This is just using the 3 inputs. No cd of the car,gears,converter,head flow,etc.

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So what does your calculator say if a motor makes 976 hp and weighs 3250?

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3250lbs [email protected], how much hp did I make???
Did you stay at a fixed RPM the entire 1320?

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