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Old 03-06-2014, 10:13 PM
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Hello Bob, I'm checking out your throttle cable bracket and it jarred a new quandary in my noggin. Do you know if that's an original part to your car? I'm not sure, but I thought the ones with two holes on the side were for hipo motors and the 3 holed ones were for those that got the turbo 350 trans. Any clarification you or anybody else has would be terrific!
I have no reason to believe it is not the original, but perhaps NJSteve might weigh in differently. This is not a typical "wear" item and as a result I don't see any reason that it might have been changed. I have two other 1972 throttle brackets and they too are the three hole variety. For point of reference, the Black Car has the M22 transmission, but I doubt that matters.

Now I have something else to keep me awake tonight. Thanks a bunch - hah.


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Old 03-06-2014, 10:17 PM
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LOL!!!! Glad you can join me in these sleepless nights! It gets lonely.

I checked my parts manual and it had a picture of a two barrel motor with the three hole type, but no pictures of a 4bbl to compare it to.

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Old 03-06-2014, 10:26 PM
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trying to get things together for the 80 amp. rear alt. bracket..I never thought I would get this part, in fact I assumed it was plastic..I need to invest in a magnifying glass to read some of this assembly manual as I am certain my 20/20 is 40/40..anyway I somehow stumble upon this clip, by itself for sale on E BAY!!..I am like..I need that!!..shipping cost more than the part..anyhow I know GM uses some of these weird clips but I have never seen a one like it on my car..but it is used to secure the harness to the rear alt. bracket with the 80 amp.alt. (see 72 assembly drawing)...
What sheet number is this assembly drawing? Lower right hand corner...

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Old 03-06-2014, 11:23 PM
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What sheet number is this assembly drawing? Lower right hand corner...
sheet 12H-12, and no magnifying glass..Bob..I do think its the right clip..I have a rear alt. bracket coming so I will see how it fits on..and I did ask the guy if he had another(see, thinking of you)..but he did not..I received 2 other perhaps rear wire speaker clips for an A -body..however, if it does work right someone must have one, has to be a common clip..I will check ADK hardware, as they sell some GM clips..those items went out today, as I waited hoping I got a spare,sorry

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Old 03-09-2014, 05:29 AM
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so I spend all this time, reaching out to P.Y. members for H.E.L.P.!!...point is..no holes to mount the bolt that I have,..the correct rear 80 alt. bolt I now have in my possession is...1 3/8''...but no F CKING hole in the ALT. to mount...WTFIU?..please post photos of the rear 80amp . alt...no bracket, no holes...its the original alt...no bracket/never installed??????Click image for larger version

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Old 03-09-2014, 05:41 AM
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does not get a washer..shoulder bolt only...PM me for details regarding this mess

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Old 03-09-2014, 06:21 AM
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Default 80 AMP. ALT. bracket installation

P.S.... I really do need help regarding this, no joke...photos of 80 amp alt...no rear mounting hole!

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Old 03-09-2014, 07:02 AM
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P.S.... I really do need help regarding this, no joke...photos of 80 amp alt...no rear mounting hole!
Glenn,

Looks to me like I see the threaded hole that's eluding you. In your picture it is in the ~8:30 position and approximately 2" from the center. Maybe this is a sign that you are not meant to have a spacer and bolt and should send it to me since I too am in the hunt for one - hah.

Look again and I think you'll find it.

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Old 03-09-2014, 09:27 AM
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I think Bob is right, can't get out to get a picture of my 73, but searching through threads, came across this....
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...amp+alternator

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Old 03-09-2014, 11:54 AM
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so I spend all this time, reaching out to P.Y. members for H.E.L.P.!!...point is..no holes to mount the bolt that I have,..the correct rear 80 alt. bolt I now have in my possession is...1 3/8''...but no F CKING hole in the ALT. to mount...WTFIU?..please post photos of the rear 80amp . alt...no bracket, no holes...its the original alt...no bracket/never installed??????Attachment 356048

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Forgive me if I'm wrong., but do you mean the REAR A/C bracket...or the REAR alternator bracket? I see your thumbnails of your intake not having a front hole for the upper rear support (HO type) A/C bracket. Is that what you mean? I also see the rear of your alt. and it has the same bolt hole in the alt. that my 71 has for its rear bracket. The alternator has a radiused rear bracket. You have to loosen both the front and rear at the same time to adjust the belt tension. I don't see a pic of your rear alt. bracket. Only the Upper rear A/C bracket!

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Old 03-09-2014, 01:19 PM
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The bolt hole is there. There is a specific rear bracket for the alternator that uses a longer bolt and a spacer in between the alternator back and the bracket.
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:26 PM
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This is the correct rear bracket for the 80 amp alternator, along with a couple shots of my 73 SD. It used the same brackets as the 72 80 amp setup. Give me a yell if you need any other photos. I still have a photo archive from my 72 HO cars.
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:47 PM
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Glenn,

Looks to me like I see the threaded hole that's eluding you. In your picture it is in the ~8:30 position and approximately 2" from the center. Maybe this is a sign that you are not meant to have a spacer and bolt and should send it to me since I too am in the hunt for one - hah.

Look again and I think you'll find it.

Bob
...trust me, that thought crossed my mind...I do not understand as the hole does not take a regular size bolt...and it looks as though its never had a bolt in it..the assembly manual calls for a 1 3/8 bolt..I am like where do I get this..for laughS I remove the rear water neck bolt...guess what?!..its 1 3/8...I can get a repop kit from Inline Tube that also includes the correct slotted nut for threaded water neck stud...I have the original alternator #matching....NJSTEVE, you once posted a photo of your rear alt. bracket bolt removed with the spacer...a measuring tool was in the photo...I have looked at every thread and cannot find that photo...if you could find that and repost it here it would be much appreciated....BOB, according to the assy. man...you need a 5/16-18-1 3/8 bolt,lock washer 5/16 and a flat washer 5/16 ID X3/4 OD...and a spacer 11/32..when I get my parts I will post pics..not certain how this will all work out

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Default REAR ALTERNATOR MOUNTING HOLE

....there is a threaded hole..although it looks like it was never used...it takes a 5/16-18- 1 3/8 bolt...I made a mistake as my water neck bolt is the correct length, its not 5/16..so I am making progress..thanks for the help....NJSTEVE,thanks for posting those photos..that is exactly what I needed!...thanks!!


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Old 03-10-2014, 07:29 AM
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I can't seem to find the bolt measurement photo so I will take it again and post it.

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Old 03-10-2014, 04:57 PM
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Default REAR ALTERNATOR BRACKET MOUNTING

thanks to P.Y. MEMBER OL PINION HEAD I have a rear alternator bracket and spacer, the spacer is the same ones used on the power steering pump (available in repo kit for $39,not good MOTORCITY MUSCLE CARS)..I installed the clip where I believe it should go..however that causes the connector to be to short to plug in..I can easily lengthen the connector an inch or mount the clip differently for greater length..plus I am still hunting down hardware..it seems wherever a regular washer goes, I got a lock washer instead..I have measured every bolt and it matches the assembly so far..as for lock washers its probably whoever assembled it..as all parts are similar in the general vicinity..I know, complete madness..Click image for larger version

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Old 03-10-2014, 05:05 PM
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:25 PM
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:57 PM
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Has anyone seen one of these decals with year printed on it.. Funny, it says 72 Trans Am, when the 70 & 71 is same.
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