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Isn't this horse dead yet?
Contrary to legend,the program worked through design, manufacture then implementation through sales, all proven successful. Unfortunately for some not to their imagined potential. Could there have been improvements...possibly? Could the machine shops who performed work, performed to a level that they were paid for? Absolutely. Could there have been a better spokesperson then the West St plumber, who then turned and has now dedicated his useless life to destroying a business? Absolutely! Will it ever end? No, not even if they were on a funny car making a six second pass or better because it is too light. Does it matter how many porters some one sends their heads to for improvements? Only with this product.
Would every one like to see a product do better than the rest? Hell no, and it has been proven time and time again by those same people.
Is this subject old? Yes, as old as the plumbers crack (and held in the same regard).

Man it's old and look how many guys just don't post up any more because of all the bull sh*t. Stand up guys that try to better their own race or weekend program are accused of drinking the koolaid instead of being supported and given constructive advice on how to proceed. There was a time where the professionals and the fast were respected an looked up to, now no one will publicly put that forward as it is becoming a thing of the past.
So keep at it and lets see the next victim of the Occupy movement be discovered.