[Formula8]

Originally Posted by 2002Z4CSS

Then that would be racist.

No, how about because it does not currently meet the definition of a hate crime? I guess looking it up and posting from an informed position is more work than some are willing to do. http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/civilrights/overview.htm.

That being said, if a case can be made for the death penalty, this killing would probably be high on my list.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Formula8

That being said, if a case can be made for the death penalty, this killing would probably be high on my list.

Probably?

I'm going to nominate this for "MOST ABSURD STATEMENT OF THE DAY".

I doubt anything will come along that is more absurd, but you never know.

[67blackcherry]

Originally Posted by Formula8

That being said, if a case can be made for the death penalty, this killing would probably be high on my list.

IF????

Originally Posted by Brian Baker

Probably?

I'm going to nominate this for "MOST ABSURD STATEMENT OF THE DAY".

I doubt anything will come along that is more absurd, but you never know.

I'll second that nomination.

[Formula8]

Originally Posted by Brian Baker

Probably?

I'm going to nominate this for "MOST ABSURD STATEMENT OF THE DAY".

I doubt anything will come along that is more absurd, but you never know.

Do I win anything for that? Well Brian, it was early and I shouldn't have added the death penalty comment so in that context, I find myself agreeing with you. Either way the bottom line is this was a tragic event/attack or whatever you chose to call it and I did not intend to make it into a debate over the death penalty.

On this Veterans day my heart, thoughts and prayers go out to those killed, injured and immediately affected by the cowardly acts of this guy and anyone who somehow condones such killings. On that point, I believe we can agree.

[Danimal]

And Chicago mayor Daley wisely offers his thoughts:

“Unfortunately, America loves Guns. We love guns to a point where that uh we see devastation on a daily basis. You don’t blame a group.”

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/10/...-love-of-guns/

By that logic it would seem that the 9/11 terrorists were lovers of planes.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Danimal

And Chicago mayor Daley wisely offers his thoughts:

“Unfortunately, America loves Guns. We love guns to a point where that uh we see devastation on a daily basis. You don’t blame a group.”

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/10/...-love-of-guns/

By that logic it would seem that the 9/11 terrorists were lovers of planes.

Daley is an asshat. The killings happened on a military base for Christ sake, where there are THOUSANDS OF GUNS, which their being there has nothing to do with any real or perceived "love affair" Americans have with guns.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Formula8

Do I win anything for that? Well Brian, it was early and I shouldn't have added the death penalty comment so in that context, I find myself agreeing with you. Either way the bottom line is this was a tragic event/attack or whatever you chose to call it and I did not intend to make it into a debate over the death penalty.

On this Veterans day my heart, thoughts and prayers go out to those killed, injured and immediately affected by the cowardly acts of this guy and anyone who somehow condones such killings. On that point, I believe we can agree.

I could probably scrounge up a Bozo button.

I wasn't taking it in the context of debating over capital punishment, it just found it absurd because people tend to either be for it or against it if it fits the crime, not in the middle. Since it was early, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

[johnsma22]

Originally Posted by Formula8

No, how about because it does not currently meet the definition of a hate crime?

Regardless of the stupid definition of what a hate crime is (ie, the race or sexual orientation of the person killed), I think it's safe to say that if you kill someone by putting a bullet in their brain, you HATE them! I hate political correctness and all the dopes who subscribe to its doctrines!

13 people are dead and hundreds more lives forever changed because of the religion of political correctness. How many more lives is it going to take for people to wake up? That's a rhetorical question, because we all know the answer. The dopes who subscribe to this garbage will NEVER concede defeat, until and unless they are holding the blood soaked heads of one of their own loved ones!

[Formula8]

Originally Posted by johnsma22

Regardless of the stupid definition of what a hate crime is (ie, the race or sexual orientation of the person killed), I think it's safe to say that if you kill someone by putting a bullet in their brain, you HATE them! I hate political correctness and all the dopes who subscribe to its doctrines!

13 people are dead and hundreds more lives forever changed because of the religion of political correctness. How many more lives is it going to take for people to wake up? That's a rhetorical question, because we all know the answer. The dopes who subscribe to this garbage will NEVER concede defeat, until and unless they are holding the blood soaked heads of one of their own loved ones!

I don't necessarily disagree with you John. My point was that this is not considered a hate crime not because it would be racist to do so but because it does not meet the definition of hate crime based on the facts known so far. Sometimes some people just say things on the internet without any knowledge of the subject, others read it and well hell, that's good enough for them. I am not making any statement about the concept of a hate crime, just stating why it currently is not being prosecuted as such.