[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by pggto

Dash Pad

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=667454

pggto,

I pm'd him already, but thanks anyway.

Dennis

[scott w]

I think I saved a drivers side quarter cut from a 70 4-door, that I parted years ago, if your interested i can see if I still have it??

[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by scott w

I think I saved a drivers side quarter cut from a 70 4-door, that I parted years ago, if your interested i can see if I still have it??

Scott w,

If it's solid and damage free, we'd be interested. Did you cut it out like an N.O.S. panel with the door jamb, trunk lip, etc.? Thanks for offering.

Dennis

[se428bandit]

Dennis , it would be cool to build a stroker 350 with 12 casting heads.

[70Steve]

I like what you have planned for this car Dennis and Dan. What a cool car it is too, would like to know what the original owner was thinking in regards to the way the car was ordered.

Here is an old early 80's pic of my Dad's 70 LeMans Sport 4 door.

[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by 70Steve

I like what you have planned for this car Dennis and Dan. What a cool car it is too, would like to know what the original owner was thinking in regards to the way the car was ordered.

Here is an old early 80's pic of my Dad's 70 LeMans Sport 4 door.

70Steve, That is a nice looking Sport! Do you recall what options it had? Looks like it had dual exhaust at least, and the Cordova Top and Rally II's. I would've never thought we would be so interested in 4-door LeMans' a few years ago, but the wierd ones are facinating and collectable, maybe not really valuable, but collectable. You don't see them anywhere, even at the national Pontiac events (POCI, Ames, etc.).

We will try to search for the orginal owner someday soon. We know the dealership it was delivered to in Santa Rosa, CA called Talmadge-Wood Pontiac. They still exist today as Wood Subaru, or something like that.

I too want to know what this person was thinking, basically ordering a 4-door GT-37 with the 350 motor, and almost a 4-door GTO if the 400 was ordered. We just replaced the old disc and pressure plate along with the flywheel that got damaged from the worn units rivets. We'll post more pic's as we make noticable progress.

Dennis

[70Steve]

Originally Posted by SD455DJ

70Steve, That is a nice looking Sport! Do you recall what options it had? Looks like it had dual exhaust at least, and the Cordova Top and Rally II's. I would've never thought we would be so interested in 4-door LeMans' a few years ago, but the wierd ones are facinating and collectable, maybe not really valuable, but collectable. You don't see them anywhere, even at the national Pontiac events (POCI, Ames, etc.).

We will try to search for the orginal owner someday soon. We know the dealership it was delivered to in Santa Rosa, CA called Talmadge-Wood Pontiac. They still exist today as Wood Subaru, or something like that.

I too want to know what this person was thinking, basically ordering a 4-door GT-37 with the 350 motor, and almost a 4-door GTO if the 400 was ordered. We just replaced the old disc and pressure plate along with the flywheel that got damaged from the worn units rivets. We'll post more pic's as we make noticable progress.

Dennis

It is factory white with the black top and a blue interior, 350, T350 and 2.56 rear, Options on the build sheet (still got it too, Dad found it under the back seat in the 70's and filed it away) are, power windows, door locks, power bench seat, electric trunk release, tinted windshield, front and rear floor mats, door edge guards, power front discs, power steer, rally II's, G78 White Walls, trunk light, clock and AM radio. It was factory single exhaust, that was replaced by the twin system early on.

It was imported new and converted to RHD and sold as a new car. It was ordered, IIRC, about 28 to 30 cars after my 70 GTO, but my GTO was early Nov. and this one's early Feb! I guess the U.S. dealer, Kahn Motors in NJ, wasn't a high volume dealer.

Dad bought it in the mid to late 70's with about 30k miles, I think it's got 95k on it now. It's been off the road for awhile, but atleast it is still in the family. Dad bought a GTO hood to put on it and also liked the idea of the GTO splitters and rear valance as well. The old man passed away last December and, I tell ya, it was so damn hard digging this out of the shed to bring to my house . It's turn will come.

Hey, would you be interested in a pair of rear quarter panels on their own? I saw some advertised in Ca.

[Douglas Willinger]

Originally Posted by 70Steve

I like what you have planned for this car Dennis and Dan. What a cool car it is too, would like to know what the original owner was thinking in regards to the way the car was ordered.

Here is an old early 80's pic of my Dad's 70 LeMans Sport 4 door.

Nice car. Is it still in existence?

Has anyone ever installed a 1970 GTO nose on such a car- 4 door hardtop or post sedan? Any pictures of such?

[70Steve]

Originally Posted by Douglas Willinger

Nice car. Is it still in existence?

Has anyone ever installed a 1970 GTO nose on such a car- 4 door hardtop or post sedan? Any pictures of such?

Thanks Douglas, yes, still in my possession, part of the family for 40 plus years now, but has been off the road for many years. I've seen 70 GTO fronts on wagons, but never a 70 4 door sedan. I have seen 71 4 door hardtops with the endura front though.

[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by se428bandit

Dennis , it would be cool to build a stroker 350 with 12 casting heads.

se428bandit, That's an intriguing idea, but we are on a tight budget and using parts we have on hand. Still a great idea if we wanted to keep the numbers matching. To take it a step further, we could install bigger valves in the original 350 heads (can't recall the casting #) along with the '70 4-bbl intake and carb. I believe the intake port volume on all D-port heads were essentailly the same, so would flow similar numbers with tehe same size valves. Just combustion chamber cc's varied.

Dennis

[se428bandit]

Originally Posted by SD455DJ

se428bandit, That's an intriguing idea, but we are on a tight budget and using parts we have on hand. Still a great idea if we wanted to keep the numbers matching. To take it a step further, we could install bigger valves in the original 350 heads (can't recall the casting #) along with the '70 4-bbl intake and carb. I believe the intake port volume on all D-port heads were essentailly the same, so would flow similar numbers with tehe same size valves. Just combustion chamber cc's varied.

Dennis

Dennis,the '70 350 heads are "11" casting # and i think are around a 75cc with press-in studs.I ran a 068 cam in my,it was a little lazy with a 2.78 gear but after it was rolling it pull pretty good. It outran alot of pesky lil hondas on the highway.

[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by se428bandit

Dennis,the '70 350 heads are "11" casting # and i think are around a 75cc with press-in studs.I ran a 068 cam in my,it was a little lazy with a 2.78 gear but after it was rolling it pull pretty good. It outran alot of pesky lil hondas on the highway.

se428bandit, Thanks for the reminder for the head casting number. I was thinking that the combustion chamber volume was around 75-80 cc's to get anywhere close to 8.8:1 advertised compression. Is that the motor you have in your Ventura? I think the 068 cam would be great with some compression and 3.23 gears or higher.

At the Pure Stock Drags, Tom Miller's killer '69 350 HO Firebird ran 13.40's with an 067 cam (Turbo 400 car) and 4.10 gears. His HO only had 10.5:1 compression, so there was some HP left on the table. That car could run high 12's with 11:1 compression, 068 cam and factory 4.33 gears.

Dennis

[wrenchmen]

very nice car!...looks damn good in the photos...did I read correct?, you need a whole new body?

very nice options indeed.

The color looks very similar to my 70 Lemans Sport, mine is also an original 4-speed car with 3:23 rear gears and blue interior, 350 engine. we enjoy driving it all over.

[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by wrenchmen

very nice car!...looks damn good in the photos...did I read correct?, you need a whole new body?

very nice options indeed.

The color looks very similar to my 70 Lemans Sport, mine is also an original 4-speed car with 3:23 rear gears and blue interior, 350 engine. we enjoy driving it all over.
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Wrenchmen, yeah, we are looking for a complete body that is clean and straight. But for now the original body is pretty good. It has rust through in the drivers floor, side of the front cowl, lower front renders and quarters, and damage from a minor rear end collision years ago. The former owner (before John) replaced part of the trunk floor with a flat piece of sheet metal and did an admirable job of it to. The rear parcel shelf is rusted through as well from a leaky rear window. The original color was Atoll Blue and was repainted a color close to Bermuda blue.

I'd love to see more pics of your nicely optioned LeMans Sport. It looks great in your avatar. What other options does it have?

Dennis

[F ROCK]

here's one in south jersey.
https://southjersey.craigslist.org/p...879185692.html

[Douglas Willinger]

Nice! Thanks!

Blue/Blue. Body looks clean, though no close ups of the 1/4 panels.

Looks like an original 350b car.

No title. New Jersey.

How difficult would obtaining paperwork for such a car be?

Originally Posted by F ROCK

here's one in south jersey.
https://southjersey.craigslist.org/p...879185692.html

[Douglas Willinger]

Craigslist listing text:

"1970 Pontiac lemans. Complete for parts only no title will come with a bill of sale. Dont know much about it but if you have question call or text. Body is in good shape"

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Did save the listing, the photos and the information., and see what I can find out.

Originally Posted by Douglas Willinger

Nice! Thanks!

Blue/Blue. Body looks clean, though no close ups of the 1/4 panels.

Looks like an original 350b car.

No title. New Jersey.

How difficult would obtaining paperwork for such a car be?

[SD455DJ]

Dan installed my new 'used' wood wheel (to replace the original wood wheel that was crumbling apart) while he was installing the new engine harness and ignition switch. Since the wheel had to come off, he made the switcheroo and also got the steering wheel locking mechanism to work again. It had been monkeyed with in the past and didn't engage with the key turned and removed, but now works when the shifter is put in reverse like the factory intended.

The 455 will go back in once we get the exhaust manifolds back from the blaster/coater guy (tomorrow hopefully).

Dennis

[SD455DJ]

The RA exhaust manifolds are ready to install. The coating will darken with heat cycling of the motor to a dark gray from the silver grey hi-temp coating. They were thought to be the 2.5" outlet versions, but lo and behold...they are the standard 2.30" outlets. The motor powered the 3700 lb. Tempest to 11.90 at 114+ mph, so they don't seem to hold it back too much.

Dennis

[SD455DJ]

The 462 is in the Lemans engine bay now with the new polyurethane motor mounts from Butler. They did improve the clearance between the bottom of the oil pan and crossmember and centerlink. Hopefully it is worth the extra cost.

M-20 is going in next!

Dennis