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Has anyone else tried this McCarty/BES head bolt cooling mod? It does look much easier to do than running external coolant lines. I have serious doubts it’s actually going to work though.

Yes that is a head bolt you can see through the opening in the intake port.


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Seriously, WTF is the deal with this engine? It's one problem after another

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Seriously, WTF is the deal with this engine? It's one problem after another
x2. I spent the time reading thru all the pages awhile back and that thing is scary!! From everything I've read and the photo's posted, none of this looks or sounds remotely like something BES would initially do in any of their builds, now what happens to it after it leaves their shop can be another story! They are local to me and I've never heard anything negative on the quality of their work and They've been around for a long time in this area. I know who I'd be pitchin a fit with on all of this.
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x2. I spent the time reading thru all the pages awhile back and that thing is scary!! From everything I've read and the photo's posted, none of this looks or sounds remotely like something BES would initially do in any of their builds, now what happens to it after it leaves their shop can be another story! They are local to me and I've never heard anything negative on the quality of their work and They've been around for a long time in this area. I know who I'd be pitchin a fit with on all of this.
Sad deal.
This engine was shipped directly from BES.

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This engine was shipped directly from BES.
Have you talked directly with them over this? I'm just stunned to believe that they are totally behind the build of your motor and some of the hack work pictured in your post.

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If BES is going to affiliate themselves with other engine builders...they should check the work that has their name on it.

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Which other engine builder?
Let me rephrase that "engine salesman"

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Has anyone else tried this McCarty/BES head bolt cooling mod? It does look much easier to do than running external coolant lines. I have serious doubts it’s actually going to work though.

Yes that is a head bolt you can see through the opening in the intake port.

Run it.......i would be more concerned about the log in the middle of the port rather than cutting thru a small amount at the head bolt.

Not to discredit...but why is the area around the head bolt darkened compared to the rest of the port wall that was hit with the common sand roll?

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Run it.......i would be more concerned about the log in the middle of the port rather than cutting thru a small amount at the head bolt.

Not to discredit...but why is the area around the head bolt darkened compared to the rest of the port wall that was hit with the common sand roll?
Discredit who? I’m not sure why it looks like that either. Below are additional shots of some of the other ports.
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Maybe you should post a few of those pictures on yellowbullet...guaranteed BES or someone who works for them or knows them follows the bullet.

I would like to their response on the main cap pictures.

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Has anyone else tried this McCarty/BES head bolt cooling mod? It does look much easier to do than running external coolant lines. I have serious doubts it’s actually going to work though.

Yes that is a head bolt you can see through the opening in the intake port.

well everyone else seems to think this is ok and maybe they've had good luck with this but in my experience it has been an issue./

on a set of wenzler heads i had there was one stud that was open into the intake port. i ran it that way for a while and it was fine, but after time oil worked its way into the hole and when i would get on it it would suck that oil into the port and smoke like crazy. i took the head off and had a sleeve put in the hole and the smoking stopped. mine was a bigger opening than your pic shows but i thought it was worth mentioning

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