[uneasyrider]

Originally Posted by The Champ

Good drivers have won more than 1 race in their 16+ year automobile racing careers.

I'm not aware of any modern day (say the last 40 years) era Cup racers who had only 1 automobile race win before getting a full time Cup ride.

Anyone that knows of someone that has, feel free to correct me.

In the end I just really don't care. I will comment. I'd love to see you out there on the track racing against her. More than likely you'ed get your ass handed to you along with 99% of the average people on here playing "couch racer". "Good Driver" was only in reference, in my description, to the fact that she is capable of running at that level. Notice! I used the word "good". Example: To describe a driver like Tazio Nuvolari I'd use the word FABULOUS, or PHENOMENAL, if you catch my drift. I'm not "correcting" you, by the way, I'm just giving perspective to my comment.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by uneasyrider

I'd love to see you out there on the track racing against her. More than likely you'ed get your ass handed to you along with 99% of the average people on here playing "couch racer". "Good Driver" was only in reference, in my description, to the fact that she is capable of running at that level. Notice! I used the word "good".

First of all - I have never attempted to claim that I am capable of running in NASCAR - at any level.

But that doesn't mean I don't know what "good" is at that level.

I personally know drivers that have performed better than Danica in the same levels as Danica. They don't have a full time Cup ride.

That is my beef.

[uneasyrider]

Originally Posted by The Champ

First of all - I have never attempted to claim that I am capable of running in NASCAR - at any level.

But that doesn't mean I don't know what "good" is at that level.

I personally know drivers that have performed better than Danica in the same levels as Danica. They don't have a full time Cup ride.

That is my beef.

Oh, OK. Life isn't fair, you're correct.

P.S. Remember, she is qualifying for the races. There have ALWAYS been driver's that were better than others.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by uneasyrider

P.S. Remember, she is qualifying for the races.

Yeah, usually between the lower 20's to 40th. While driving some of the best equipment available...

[uneasyrider]

Originally Posted by The Champ

Yeah, usually between the lower 20's to 40th. While driving some of the best equipment available...

And... Life isn't fair. There will be someone else filling her shoes in that position when she leaves.

As we've all said, the disproportionate attention is because of her looks and she is articulate, i.e. she's good in front of the camera. That is what the sponsor wants. If you haven't noticed the sport is about money. The fact that people are still watching her and talking about her proves she is a good investment for the sponsor. She qualifies for races, be it low or high, they almost don't care as long as she gets the "name" on T.V. Racing has been that way for a long time.

Personally, if I had the ideal race it would be Top Fuel drag racing with a bunch of Linda Vaughn and "Jungle" Pam types out there driving half naked. I don't care how well they drive just give me the show! Noise, horsepower and BIG BOOBS! YEE HAA! LOL! As Jeff Foxworthy said, You want to know what a man is thinking? He's thinking I want a beer and to see something naked... LOL!

I'll tell you what, if F1 had a "Danica" they would use her too.

I love Pink Floyd, "Money" is one of my favorite songs.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by uneasyrider

Personally, if I had the ideal race it would be Top Fuel drag racing with a bunch of Linda Vaughn and "Jungle" Pam types out there driving half naked. I don't care how well they drive just give me the show! Noise, horsepower and BIG BOOBS! YEE HAA! LOL!

I guess this is where we differ.

I enjoy good competitive racing. You only want to see T&A.

And seeing as how you like "BIG BOOBS" - what is it about Danica that you find appealing?

It's revolting, but the kid on the left has bigger boobs than Danica...

[Rob B]

Originally Posted by The Champ

I guess this is where we differ.

I enjoy good competitive racing. You only want to see T&A.

And seeing as how you like "BIG BOOBS" - what is it about Danica that you find appealing?

It's revolting, but the kid on the left has bigger boobs than Danica...

OMG That picture is destined to be a classic!!!

[Racer81x]

Originally Posted by uneasyrider

P.S. Remember, she is qualifying for the races. There have ALWAYS been driver's that were better than others.

Not entirely true, it was either last year or early this year, she didn't have enough owner points and rain was going to determine starting position, so Tony went and bought the owner points from one of Baldwin racings teams so she could be in the race.
Thats just plain pathectic

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by Racer81x

Not entirely true, it was either last year or early this year, she didn't have enough owner points and rain was going to determine starting position, so Tony went and bought the owner points from one of Baldwin racings teams so she could be in the race.
Thats just plain pathectic

It was this year.

Tony bought Baldwin's owner points to guarantee Danica would make the first 5 races. NASCAR rules dictate that the top 36 get in on speed, then the next 6 (or possibly 7) are determined by owners points.

She failed to qualify on speed for 4 of the first 5 races. Had it not been for "buying" points, Danica would not have raced in Phoenix (qualified 40th), Vegas (37th), Bristol (41st) or California (40th).

Failing to qualify to run in 4 of the 1st 5 races would have also caused her to miss the races in Texas (42nd), Darlington (40th) and Dover (39th).

So, in fact, she has only qualified to run in 7 races this season.

If you take away the points from those 7 races that she didn't earn a starting spot, and Danica would be lose 102 points. That would drop her from 246 to 144 and instead of being in 28th position in the points, she would be in 38th.

The only drivers behind her in the points would be Michael McDowell, Timmy Hill, Scott Speed, Michael Waltrip and Terry Labonte inside the top 43 spots.

[cuz68]

Originally Posted by The Champ

It was this year.

Tony bought Baldwin's owner points to guarantee Danica would make the first 5 races. NASCAR rules dictate that the top 36 get in on speed, then the next 6 (or possibly 7) are determined by owners points.

She failed to qualify on speed for 4 of the first 5 races. Had it not been for "buying" points, Danica would not have raced in Phoenix (qualified 40th), Vegas (37th), Bristol (41st) or California (40th).

Failing to qualify to run in 4 of the 1st 5 races would have also caused her to miss the races in Texas (42nd), Darlington (40th) and Dover (39th).

So, in fact, she has only qualified to run in 7 races this season.

If you take away the points from those 7 races that she didn't earn a starting spot, and Danica would be lose 102 points. That would drop her from 246 to 144 and instead of being in 28th position in the points, she would be in 38th.

The only drivers behind her in the points would be Michael McDowell, Timmy Hill, Scott Speed, Michael Waltrip and Terry Labonte inside the top 43 spots.

And make sure that you leave out, That she was on the POLE at Daytona.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by cuz68

And make sure that you leave out, That she was on the POLE at Daytona.

I think the whole world knew that....

Stop the presses - Blind squirrel finds acorn...

In an effort for full disclosure - let's list the qualifying position earned on the track for the other races...

Martinsville - 32nd

Kansas - 25th

Richmond - 30th

Charlotte - 24th

Now if your good at math, you'll realize that there are still two races I haven't listed.

Why?

That's because qualifying was rained out at Talladega and Pocono.

Without the points garnered from the races she failed to qualify on speed on, she would not have started 22nd at Talladega or 30th at Pocono.