[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by mjm421

How many "other" people are running 8.30's so soon in their program n/a @3000lbs.?

The point and the question is how much will it cost and how many will sell?
no
doubt
John could do it. Like I said, how many pro ports have sold because of John efforts?
My quess would be probably zero because of cost and amount of work that it takes to get there.

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

The point and the question is how much will it cost and how many will sell?
no
doubt
John could do it. Like I said, how many pro ports have sold because of John efforts?
My quess would be probably zero because of cost and amount of work that it takes to get there.

The offer I made Jim would not have cost him much at all (no money , just some parts) . In return I said I would give him back a complete model head with complete cad model as well, valve profile, and valve job profile. And he would have a part # for Jesel rocker set up.
However I told him that it would require some core box changes. Not for my heads, I know a welder. But it would have taken a intake core, ex core and a water jacket core change and a modification to the core under the valve cover.
All of this is not cheep.
And as MJM puts it, no one likes being told their baby is ugly.
I made the offer because I wanted to help and I wanted something good for myself that I was in control of the design. Because there are no designs for Pontiacs that I am happy with. I chose my Pro Ports only because I was "content" with the valve placement and it had more than enough material to work with, so it seamed like the least amount of work to get were I wanted to be.

[GTOGEORGE]

I hate to step on Tom's shoe here but I'm thinking Marty's car was a little heavy.......not nowhere as heavy as mine but around 2600-2800lbs.


GTO George

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by john marcella

The offer I made Jim would not have cost him much at all (no money , just some parts) . In return I said I would give him back a complete model head with complete cad model as well, valve profile, and valve job profile. And he would have a part # for Jesel rocker set up.
However I told him that it would require some core box changes. Not for my heads, I know a welder. But it would have taken a intake core, ex core and a water jacket core change and a modification to the core under the valve cover.
All of this is not cheep.
And as MJM puts it, no one likes being told their baby is ugly.
I made the offer because I wanted to help and I wanted something good for myself that I was in control of the design. Because there are no designs for Pontiacs that I am happy with. I chose my Pro Ports only because I was "content" with the valve placement and it had more than enough material to work with, so it seamed like the least amount of work to get were I wanted to be.

I know John M. can fix stuff himself. Quote by John M: "I know a welder. "

But here is my point again, read what John M. posted: "it would have taken a intake core, ex core and a water jacket core change and a modification to the core under the valve cover.

INTAKE CORE, EXHAUST CORE, WATER JACKET CORE, AND MODS TO THE CORE UNDER THE VALVE COVER. (Seems pretty simple to me that the whole head pretty much needed to be completely reworked to make the 1000++ hp John M. was talking about.

So I really do believe that John M is saying that the head could make Big Power WITH some serious design changes.

Tom Vaught

[Stan Weiss]

Tom,
You need to be a little more careful in your reading.

Stan

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

I know John M. can fix stuff himself. Quote by John M: "I know a welder. "

But here is my point again, read what John M. posted: "it would have taken a intake core, ex core and a water jacket core change and a modification to the core under the valve cover.

INTAKE CORE, EXHAUST CORE, WATER JACKET CORE, AND MODS TO THE CORE UNDER THE VALVE COVER. (Seems pretty simple to me that the whole head pretty much needed to be completely reworked to make the 1000++ hp John M. was talking about.

So I really do believe that John M is saying that the head could make Big Power WITH some serious design changes.

Tom Vaught

Originally Posted by john marcella

Well since my name is getting lumped in here, I will go on the record and say..............I believe I can make well over 1000 hp with the CV head with only porting and maybe a little weld, no moving anything. But I would also say that I could do better if I moved things around. JMO

Do I think it is the best head for Pontiacs=NO
2nd best =NO / modified(my way) =YES !!!!!!!!!

Again -JMO