[The Boss]

Originally Posted by phoenixgraphix

The stripe you are showing as a NOS stripe with a pinstripe is where the pink silk screened color is actually overlapping the orange. The colors are individual and should not overlap. We corrected this issue by making sure the colors did not overlap when they are silk screened. Thank you for your question.

So I should read that as "We will continue to produce the stripes in the manner we believe GM intended them." rather than "we will produce the stripes the way GM produced them"?

[gto4evr]

Originally Posted by The Boss

So I should read that as "We will continue to produce the stripes in the manner we believe GM intended them." rather than "we will produce the stripes the way GM produced them"?

My thoughts exactly! Comparing those two pictures, that NOS stripe looks MUCH nicer than the reproduction stripe. The overlap defines the color change between the orange and pink stripe and makes the overall appearance much crisper.

Phoenix, how do you know it wasn't overlapped on purpose to give that pink an outline? can anyone produce a clear picture of a factory stripe that does NOT have the overlap to show it was a QC failure on the one pictured?

[phoenixgraphix]

Originally Posted by gto4evr

My thoughts exactly! Comparing those two pictures, that NOS stripe looks MUCH nicer than the reproduction stripe. The overlap defines the color change between the orange and pink stripe and makes the overall appearance much crisper.

Phoenix, how do you know it wasn't overlapped on purpose to give that pink an outline? can anyone produce a clear picture of a factory stripe that does NOT have the overlap to show it was a QC failure on the one pictured?

We know through years of research and having original pieces in stock. If you have knowledge that the overlap was intentionally done by a verifiable source from GM we will certainly look at your information.

['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by phoenixgraphix

We know through years of research and having original pieces in stock. If you have knowledge that the overlap was intentionally done by a verifiable source from GM we will certainly look at your information.

Is that how the Pontiac restoration hobby got the red "Buick" style aircleaner stickers?
I see your company offers them in some form of $109 "technical decal pkg"

[gto4evr]

Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head

Is that how the Pontiac restoration hobby got the red "Buick" style aircleaner stickers?
I see your company offers them in some form of $109 "technical decal pkg"

Snap! Apparently years of research has also proven that the uninformed have wallets as well as those questing for correctness, no need to halt or correct disinformation when there are willing buyers ready to spend money on what they think they need……The customer is always right!

Can anyone else confirm about the 3M backing and the comment about factory 69 stripes having varying widths?

[gtohurstjudge]

The stripes in your pictures are nos stripes. I have several boxes of nos stripes
on my shelf and they have the same identical top peel off layer, same backing and same mismatch from panel to panel. The factory stripes are printed on white film, so that the yellow
stripe is not yellow on the edge, but white. As I said, people who know 69 Judge stripes
who have never seen DCS stripes from Year One flip out over them because they look so much better.As I said, I heard that you can't buy DCS stripes anymore but I have not confirmed that fact. To me the variation and width and the white edge on the stripe look terrible.

[gto4evr]

Originally Posted by gtohurstjudge

The stripes in your pictures are nos stripes. I have several boxes of nos stripes
on my shelf and they have the same identical top peel off layer, same backing and same mismatch from panel to panel. The factory stripes are printed on white film, so that the yellow
stripe is not yellow on the edge, but white. As I said, people who know 69 Judge stripes
who have never seen DCS stripes from Year One flip out over them because they look so much better.As I said, I heard that you can't buy DCS stripes anymore but I have not confirmed that fact. To me the variation and width and the white edge on the stripe look terrible.

Did anyone other than DCS make repop stripes in the late 80's? I remember a big decal guy at the Carlisle PA shows back then selling the fender stickers. Wagners or something like that? He also had the a back door under the counter deal where he sold the 70-up blank vin sticker for the door that was all hush hush because those were illegal to put on your car. I don't know if that place is still in business, haven't been to Carlisle in years. I'll upload some pictures of my stripes when I get home from work for your opinion on if they're NOS. I agree, I'd rather have straight and pretty ones like I put on my vert in 06, I'll have to figure out what I want to do about these.

[phoenixgraphix]

Originally Posted by The Boss

So I should read that as "We will continue to produce the stripes in the manner we believe GM intended them." rather than "we will produce the stripes the way GM produced them"?

The answer to your question is the Phoenix Graphix Judge stripes are correctly produced stripes that are silk screened like OEM. Not all Judges as you have shown in your photo have the alleged pinstripe. The intended process was to have individual colors not overlaps in color which produced the "pinstripe" look due to poor silk screening.

Many of today's manufacturers of the Judges stripes are digitally printed and not restoration pieces licensed by GM. GM GTO Stripes were originally done as a silk screen with specific widths and the stripe comes it a definite point in each stripe, many reproductions are not only the incorrect widths the end of the stripes are not finished correctly. We provide restoration correct stripes It all comes down to how much you want to invest $$$ in your vehicle. Some people have show cars and others want drivers. As an individual you will have to make the choice.