[lemans411]

Originally Posted by David Holmberg

Gaby doesn't just do porting either, he builds motors and can tune them as well.
In fact his motors have set several records in heads up competition all over the world.

And Rob, I've not seen Lil Jack, Gaby or Visner make any performance claims at all.

all over the world? now thats impressive!

i didnt say hp numbers did i? lol i just meant talking em up thats all gonna stomp everyone lol
you know ? whatever lol i hope they make big power!

[7T2]

the time is coming up for advertising renewal, david

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by lemans411

all over the world? now thats impressive!

i didnt say hp numbers did i? lol i just meant talking em up thats all gonna stomp everyone lol
you know ? whatever lol i hope they make big power!

It seems you dont understand that when qualified people with impecable qulifications introduce a new product you can pretty much bet on the fact that it will produce, even though that dont make outlandish claims. Now on the other hand when some one makes "we are going to make the earth spin"claims and they have no credibilaty to start with AND then never produce, they deserve the ridicule that comes there way. Remember the phrase "walk softly and carry a big stick" thats what the good ones do ---------

[7T2]

Originally Posted by cgeise

pretty much---

how much is word of mouth worth, curt??
if i came to you as a possible client and asked you to sign me up for a policy, saying im good 'pretty much' of the time, would you as an insurance agent say.. THATS all i need to know, sign here..??
if so, count me in, bro

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by 7T2

how much is word of mouth worth, curt??
if i came to you as a possible client and asked you to sign me up for a policy, saying im good 'pretty much' of the time, would you as an insurance agent say.. THATS all i need to know, sign here..??
if so, count me in, bro

Funny you ask it that way. Bottom line is your Insurance and the premium will be dictated by you past actions and there subsiquent results, good or bad. So if your a bone head and do things that hurt people or cost your current company claims monies then your going to pay more for less. On the other hand keep it straight and clean and you get a better deal. All anyone can do is go on past performance as an indicator of future events. If Ferrari said it was going to introduce a new super car there would be excitement all over the world -- If Ugo was to announce the same thing, People would at the very least be highly suspect. I hope that helps you "get it"

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by cgeise

Funny you ask it that way. Bottom line is your Insurance and the premium will be dictated by you past actions and there subsiquent results, good or bad. So if your a bone head and do things that hurt people or cost your current company claims monies then your going to pay more for less. On the other hand keep it straight and clean and you get a better deal. All anyone can do is go on past performance as an indicator of future events. If Ferrari said it was going to introduce a new super car there would be excitement all over the world -- If Ugo was to announce the same thing, People would at the very least be highly suspect. I hope that helps you "get it"

LOL.

[7T2]

Originally Posted by cgeise

Bottom line is your Insurance and the premium will be dictated by you past actions and there subsiquent results, good or bad.

sooo,
if my product has the longest warranty in the applicative market, and there are no returns on design isues, this should be an insurance panacea,,, right?

if so, then why, as an agent, do you continue your campaign of slash and burn of new products, before they are tested??

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by 7T2

sooo,
if my product has the longest warranty in the applicative market, and there are no returns on design isues, this should be an insurance panacea,,, right?

if so, then why, as an agent, do you continue your campaign of slash and burn of new products, before they are tested??

I guarantee you it won't take six years for that Billet head to show you some results!

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by 7T2

sooo,
if my product has the longest warranty in the applicative market, and there are no returns on design isues, this should be an insurance panacea,,, right?

if so, then why, as an agent, do you continue your campaign of slash and burn of new products, before they are tested??

I guess if you consider hard questions that some seem to not want to address constructivley as slash and and burn, thats your interpratation. I have never been a cv basher -- there results speak for them self, they seem to be what there claimed to be , a street head. As far as the RA V program that seemed to have screwed over the RAR-Z program, that was just wrong. If the reality is your all butt hurt because you bought a product that has worked very well on other applications and you couldnt make it work, maybe its time to look in the mirror or question your helpers recomendations. There is cause and effect with every thing we do on a race car, If you buy a product that has produced the proper effect many times over, maybe its time you looked at the cause.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by cgeise

I guess if you consider hard questions that some seem to not want to address constructively as slash and and burn, that's your interpretation. I have never been a cv basher -- there results speak for them self, they seem to be what there claimed to be , a street head. As far as the RA V program that seemed to have screwed over the RAR-Z program, that was just wrong. If the reality is your all butt hurt because you bought a product that has worked very well on other applications and you couldn't make it work, maybe its time to look in the mirror or question your helpers recommendations. There is cause and effect with every thing we do on a race car, If you buy a product that has produced the proper effect many times over, maybe its time you looked at the cause.

Nice paragraph

[lemans411]

Originally Posted by cgeise

It seems you dont understand that when qualified people with impecable qulifications introduce a new product you can pretty much bet on the fact that it will produce, even though that dont make outlandish claims. Now on the other hand when some one makes "we are going to make the earth spin"claims and they have no credibilaty to start with AND then never produce, they deserve the ridicule that comes there way. Remember the phrase "walk softly and carry a big stick" thats what the good ones do ---------

dont you remember i'm ignorant, i never said they wouldnt produce. even someone with "impeccable qualifications" can miss their mark or lose 60 hp on a customers head and intake upgrade for example, im just playing devils advocate i guess, lets see proof come on get it done and run it down the track , come on already whats taking so long! lmao um... ill drag you down the track um... midwest pontiacs to the front m.f. didthatjusthappen!? omg! ok im done

for now,
****ing retards
love, Rob

[7T2]

Originally Posted by lemans411

**ing retards
love, Rob

dont piss off the viking... this guy is bigger than TT bill

[cfmcnc]

1320FT=What seperates the Internet Experts from the real players,Yup.Bill C.

[bankbook]

Originally Posted by cfmcnc

1320FT=What seperates the Internet Experts from the real players,Yup.Bill C.

GAME OVER!!!!

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by cfmcnc

1320FT=What seperates the Internet Experts from the real players,Yup.Bill C.

X 2

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by lemans411

dont you remember i'm ignorant, i never said they wouldnt produce. even
for example, im just playing devils advocate i guess, lets see proof come on get it done and run it down the track , come on already whats taking so long! lmao um... ill drag you down the track um... midwest pontiacs to the front m.f. didthatjusthappen!? omg! ok im done

for now,
****ing retards
love, Rob

They would say "have you been drinking?"...

someone with "impeccable qualifications" can miss their mark or lose 60 hp on a customers head and intake upgrade

didthatjusthappen?

I heard it really did happen and it cost the customer extra... for someone else to fix... dont know that this "impecably qualified" person made good on the situation.

I wouldnt be as quiet about it if I LOST 60 hp after an expensive upgrade... even if the guy is "impeccably qualified"! I guess not having a helper he's soley at fault.

I'm hopin the "impeccably qualified" person made things right with the customer. Or plans to.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

They would say "have you been drinking?"...



didthatjusthappen?

I heard it really did happen and it cost the customer extra... for someone else to fix... dont know that this "impecably qualified" person made good on the situation.

I wouldnt be as quiet about it if I LOST 60 hp after an expensive upgrade... even if the guy is "impeccably qualified"! I guess not having a helper he's soley at fault.

I'm hopin the "impeccably qualified" person made things right with the customer. Or plans to.

There is a lot of power to make and loose in a bottom end and camshaft. The heads and intake are just one part of the puzzle.

If Dick lost 50 HP with the same package that Jeff and I have on our cars something is wrong with the builder sorry to say it, that top end package has been proven to make 1k HP at the track!!

ET slips don't lie!