[65nss4spdGTO]

Jack,

Congrats on the new direction.

I am curious why you went this direction vs the traditional Pontiac head design Visner offers?

I spent a fair amount of time talking with David Visner, really nice guy with great ideas. He did tell me he sold a second set now too.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

Jack,

Congrats on the new direction.

I am curious why you went this direction vs the traditional Pontiac head design Visner offers?

I spent a fair amount of time talking with David Visner, really nice guy with great ideas. He did tell me he sold a second set now too.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

Heat is bad.


KRE probably bought a set

[johnta1]

KRE probably bought a set

I think they have the originals.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by johnta1

I think they have the originals.

Visner didnt even know KRE made a head like the Warp 6 head till I told him.

I think this one will be far superior.

[cboggs]

thanks for the welcomes guys !!

Bill,, who'd you work for in the 70's?

[cfmcnc]

Originally Posted by cboggs

thanks for the welcomes guys !!

Bill,, who'd you work for in the 70's?

Frank Iaconio & Ray Allen,Who intern had a few customers .Bill C.

[cfmcnc]

Originally Posted by cfmcnc;

Frank Iaconio & Ray Allen,Who intern had a few customers .Bill C.

You guys talking about it reminded me of pic! Can see it here...second decal from left on front fender.. Boy...I was what... 7 LOL ! Cheers , Johnny

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Heat is bad.


KRE probably bought a set

Jack,

Visner could have made you a inline version head with the valve arrangement as an FE Ford. Yes heat can be a problem, they still had issues with the 1st version Pontiac billet they did, David told me he is the other guy buying a set of the heads you are getting.

You can say it, CVPHTTFMF!!! (Canted Valve Pontiac Head To The Front MF)

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

Jack, Visner could have made you a inline version head with the valve arrangement as an FE Ford. Yes heat can be a problem, they still had issues with the 1st version Pontiac billet they did, David told me he is the other guy buying a set of the heads you are getting.

You can say it, CVPRHTTFMF!!! (Canted Valve Pontiac RACE Head To The Front MF)

I fixed it for you Calvin. (vs your CVPSHTTRMF head)

Tom V.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

I fixed it for you Calvin. (vs your CVPSHTTRMF head)

Tom V.

Tom isnt that the very head you and Brian PRAISED till Brian couldnt get any more freebies??? Kind of a hypocritical thing to say one would think. Do I need to post the links and screen prints?

NOT ONE of us have dissed this billet head or Vizner for that matter and you come in here with bull crap like this.

YES some jabbing at Jack and some not so nice truth about someones work that didnt turn out so well(60hp net loss with an upgrade of work previously done by same person btw)... so what???

I'm sure Jack expects a little payback after tellin us for years there was nothing Pontiac about the CV's and EHTTFMF...

On the plus side some new "faces" on the Pontiac board you can try to impress and/or ride on their coat tails as you so often do. For all the folks you claim to know I still dont get how people at Ford I've met never heard of you... you might want to introduce yourself to the people that hype the eco-boost and other SC vehicles as none seem to know of you.

[bad69bird]

Originally Posted by cboggs

Interesting looking head,, wild what can be
done these days and how far CnC has taken us.
My hands still hurt from 37 years of grinding,,
wish we had Cnc in those days!

I'm sure if Gaby is involved it's going to be
a very serous running project!

Curtis

Welcome to the board Curtis!

[bad69bird]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

Tom isnt that the very head you and Brian PRAISED till Brian couldnt get any more freebies??? Kind of a hypocritical thing to say one would think. Do I need to post the links and screen prints?

NOT ONE of us have dissed this billet head or Vizner for that matter and you come in here with bull crap like this.

YES some jabbing at Jack and some not so nice truth about someones work that didnt turn out so well(60hp net loss with an upgrade of work previously done by same person btw)... so what???

I'm sure Jack expects a little payback after tellin us for years there was nothing Pontiac about the CV's and EHTTFMF...

On the plus side some new "faces" on the Pontiac board you can try to impress and/or ride on their coat tails as you so often do. For all the folks you claim to know I still dont get how people at Ford I've met never heard of you... you might want to introduce yourself to the people that hype the eco-boost and other SC vehicles as none seem to know of you.

Bruce I would appreciate it if you kept my name out of your mouth...This is between you and Tom. If you have a problem with me...you have my number feel free to give me a call. Thank you.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

Tom isnt that the very head you and Brian PRAISED till Brian couldnt get any more freebies??? Kind of a hypocritical thing to say one would think. Do I need to post the links and screen prints?

NOT ONE of us have dissed this billet head or Vizner for that matter and you come in here with bull crap like this.

YES some jabbing at Jack and some not so nice truth about someones work that didnt turn out so well(60hp net loss with an upgrade of work previously done by same person btw)... so what???

I'm sure Jack expects a little payback after tellin us for years there was nothing Pontiac about the CV's and EHTTFMF...

On the plus side some new "faces" on the Pontiac board you can try to impress and/or ride on their coat tails as you so often do. For all the folks you claim to know I still dont get how people at Ford I've met never heard of you... you might want to introduce yourself to the people that hype the eco-boost and other SC vehicles as none seem to know of you.

Did Bill put Dick Fultons motor together?

I don't really recall me saying to much about CV1s not looking like a Pontiac, just that they wouldn't run.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Did Bill put Dick Fultons motor together?

NO... Bill specializes in port development. Dick has someone else... His E-head package (that was done by your guy) ran fine... made 60 more hp BEFORE your guy did the upgrade to his own previous work... Your guy couldnt resolve that and Dicks shop ended up fixing things that werent wrong before being sent off to your guy..... Aint none of us perfect...

I don't really recall me saying to much about CV1s not looking like a Pontiac, just that they wouldn't run.

You did enough of the wouldnt run stuff for sure... Perhaps I've put guilt by association ahead of facts on the "looking like" statement.

Again good luck with your program.... As much $$$$$$ as your committing to this I'm wishing you would do an NA motor to show us what it really has... much like I wish someone would have done with the CV. PA clouds the picture.(and why I tended to get edgey when people started comparing apples to oranges on a few PA cv combos.)

And for the record myself or Bill or Jim or Calvin know the cv1 is NOT in the same league as this Vizner billet head. Just like a ported SCJ or P51 Ford or Boss9 is not in same league as the pro-stock Ford heads. CV1 was never intended to be.

So... your odds look good to be on top as Vizner has ports already proven on 400 ci austrailian pro-stocks. Again wish you were running NA...

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

NOT ONE of us have dissed this billet head or Vizner for that matter and you come in here with bull crap like this.

I posted "I fixed it for you Calvin. (vs your CVPSHTTRMF head)"

I'm sure Jack expects a little payback after tellin us for years there was nothing Pontiac about the CV's and EHTTFMF...

CV POWER "STREET" HEAD TO THE REAR MF

You guys have been calling it a STREET head for quite a few posts now Bruce (when it did not make the power you guys wanted.

Tom Vaught

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

CV POWER "STREET" HEAD TO THE REAR MF

You guys have been calling it a STREET head for quite a few posts now Bruce (when it did not make the power you guys wanted.

Tom Vaught

Was it ever said by Jim, Bill, Calvin or myself that the CV1 was a race only head?

The billet CV2 race head hasnt been run yet.

Has anyone built a well refined near max combo with CV1 yet? How many years of refinement with wideport combos???

CV1 is an alternative to a wideport with more options and capacity... CV1 Never was intended as a race only head. Mr Fultons cv1 test vs his wideports was a fair comparison... The cv1 came out ahead. I think there should be more tests... doesnt mean they will happen.

The SCJ, P51 and Boss9 Ford heads can make alot of power... each more than the other respectively but they arent in same league as the pro-stock heads are they? It even reflects in the cost. Ford gang choses what meets there needs and run it. Not very much politics or back-stabbin over cylinder heads like seen here for sure.

Visners billet pieces here should be good runners... some of Vizners ports are run on Austalian 400" pro-stocks... Should being the key word... same as the standard the CV is held to.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

CV POWER "STREET" HEAD TO THE REAR MF

You guys have been calling it a STREET head for quite a few posts now Bruce (when it did not make the power you guys wanted.

Tom Vaught

Actually it was the other way around to out perform the Street priced 305 to 340 cfm E-Head at a lower cost. One out of 2 isn't bad. Bwahhahahahahahaha
But................................. Not gonna go there.