[KS circutguy]

The "King" is jealous of the "Queen.?

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[The Champ]

Originally Posted by KS circutguy

The "King" is jealous of the "Queen.?

Jealous?

Richard isn't jealous of a model.

He was a racer - something Danica has never been and never will be.

She may be able to drive a car fast, but she doesn't know how to race.

No one will ever match Richard's 200 Cup wins. Danica most likely will never get closer to Petty's win record than she was before her first Cup race.

[cuz68]

Originally Posted by The Champ

Jealous?

Richard isn't jealous of a model.

He was a racer - something Danica has never been and never will be.

She may be able to drive a car fast, but she doesn't know how to race.

No one will ever match Richard's 200 Cup wins. Danica most likely will never get closer to Petty's win record than she was before her first Cup race.

IMOI i dont count his last win.

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by cuz68

IMOI i dont count his last win.

If you don't recognize Petty's win on the basis of some rule bending, then JJ shouldn't have any championships. Cheatin Chad has been caught every year by the NASCAR Gestapo trying to gain an unfair advantage. If the last Hendrick appeal would have went the other way (and I think it should have) he wouldn't have won last year.

A slap on the wrist was all he got for his early infractions, when he got caught. The more times he's been caught the stiffer the penalties get along with NASCAR coming down harder on rule benders. Just how many times did Chad get away with rule bending over the last 13 years that NASCAR didn't catch them giving an unfair advantage to the 48 car?

Knaus is good, but without some type of advantage over other teams the stats don't add up on the win ratio.

Who can forget this caught on the radio in car?

"If we win this race, you have to crack the back of the car," Knaus could be heard telling Johnson on the recording. "Got it?"
"Really?" Johnson replied, sounding surprised.
"Yes," Knaus said. "Got it? You don't have to have to hit it hard, you don't have to destroy it. But you've gotta do a donut and you've gotta hit the back end, or somebody's gotta hit you in the ass-end or something. OK?"
After Johnson responds with apparent silence (he can't be heard saying anything else), Knaus added, "You'll be alright. Can't take any chances."

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

If you don't recognize Petty's win on the basis of some rule bending, then JJ shouldn't have any championships. Cheatin Chad has been caught every year by the NASCAR Gestapo trying to gain an unfair advantage. If the last Hendrick appeal would have went the other way (and I think it should have) he wouldn't have won last year.

As much as I don't like JJ, this is where I need to disagree with you and it revolves around another problem I have with NASCAR.

Innovation is what set the early teams apart. The ability to open a rule book & read between the lines, building cars that met the rules, but weren't even close to stock is what moved the entire series forward - hell even the MFG's were doing it - Superbirds were just one example.

The fact that Chad will still try to come up with improvements when NASCAR says that our rules include everything we haven't thought up yet is a testament to his strength as a crew chief. Ray Evernham was another building the T-Rex car for the Winston that had so many innovations it became illegal as soon as the race was over.

It's part of the series and goes as far back as the early shine runners with the beefed up springs - take that away like NASCAR wants to, and it's just another IROC race.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by The Boss

The fact that Chad will still try to come up with improvements when NASCAR says that our rules include everything we haven't thought up yet is a testament to his strength as a crew chief.

And here I will disagree with you.

When Chad instructs his driver:

"If we win this race, you have to crack the back of the car," Knaus could be heard telling Johnson on the recording. "Got it?"

Then he knows he's clearly outside of the rules. Knowing that what you've done is illegal is just blatant cheating.

This is no different than what MWR did in the last race this past season - and we all know the ramifications that occurred after that blatant attempt to cheat the system.

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by The Champ

And here I will disagree with you.

When Chad instructs his driver:

"If we win this race, you have to crack the back of the car," Knaus could be heard telling Johnson on the recording. "Got it?"

Then he knows he's clearly outside of the rules. Knowing that what you've done is illegal is just blatant cheating.

This is no different than what MWR did in the last race this past season - and we all know the ramifications that occurred after that blatant attempt to cheat the system.

That's a direct result of NASCAR's no tolerance policy - wreck it so they can't make up a new rule! If you ain't cheating, you ain't racing!

MWR's stunt is just poor sportsmanship.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by The Boss

As much as I don't like JJ, this is where I need to disagree with you and it revolves around another problem I have with NASCAR.

Innovation is what set the early teams apart. The ability to open a rule book & read between the lines, building cars that met the rules, but weren't even close to stock is what moved the entire series forward - hell even the MFG's were doing it - Superbirds were just one example.

The fact that Chad will still try to come up with improvements when NASCAR says that our rules include everything we haven't thought up yet is a testament to his strength as a crew chief. Ray Evernham was another building the T-Rex car for the Winston that had so many innovations it became illegal as soon as the race was over.

It's part of the series and goes as far back as the early shine runners with the beefed up springs - take that away like NASCAR wants to, and it's just another IROC race.

Agree... Check out this Smokey Chevelle Link, it's a dead-on read to your point
http://www.canepacollection.com/deta...d-5117058.html especially the "Ford" frame useage.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by Alvin

Agree... Check out this Smokey Chevelle Link, it's a dead-on read to your point
http://www.canepacollection.com/deta...d-5117058.html especially the "Ford" frame useage.

First of all - Smokey IS a legend in NASCAR racing.

The car was never raced because it never passed tech inspection. At the time - the Ford frame was the only exception allowed to the stock manufacturers chassis.

Smokey tried to circumvent the rules and got caught.

How many times have we heard it said that people want to see them go back to "stock" cars. Well - they weren't "stock" back in the day either.