[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by mike leech

No Stan, you were not asking a simple question. You were insinuating that I'm too stupid to know the difference. And apparently I'm smart enough to be insulted when somebody says something insulting to me. Sorry you're clever little plan didn't work out.

Mike,
You are so smart and clever that you could not answer a simple question with a YES or NO answer. Stopping my questions and posts as if you had written them.

Stan

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Mike,
Using your method to determine in car HP. If a corvette, and a mini van both run 8.54 @ 158 MPH at 3250 lbs do they both produce the same in car HP?

Stan

1) We don't know what Mike's method to determine car HP is. I will assume that he knows a lot more than you think he does, given that I actually did the Aero/Drag job for several years.

2) A Mini Van and Mike's F-Bird might be close in the number. Course they might be far apart too depending on ALL of the parameters that make up the ASSUMED mini van.

3) If it were that easy "a simple question with a YES or NO answer." Stan, Ford, GM, and Chrysler as well as all of the OFF-Shore Guys would not have spend the Billions of $$$ to document and post Aero/Drag info on actual vehicles to the EPA and CARB people over the last 40 years..

So I would also agree with Mike's assertion that your question was "NOT SIMPLE"

I would also say that if you really believe that it is a simple quaestion, you need to send in your resume to the OEMs and CARB/EPA asap.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

Tom Vaught

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Mike,
You are so smart and clever that you could not answer a simple question with a YES or NO answer. Stopping my questions and posts as if you had written them.

Stan

Stop pretending like that was not a rhetorical question. You clearly did not expect me to give you a yes or no answer to that incomplete question. If you did I would have to assume that you don't understand the questions that you're asking, but I think you do you just think you're smarter than everybody else. There's at least a dozen variables between those two vehicles that run that time that May Affect the outcome. Most people on this site are not as uneducated and stupid as you think they are, and it's really quite annoying that you make it so obvious.

Believe it or not there's a bunch of guys going fast on this site, And others That never needed your help or advice to figure out what they were doing. Do you really think all the fast guys just got lucky? Were not as inept as you think we are.

I'm sorry if I come across as brash or harsh but I have no choice but to assume that you mean this in an insulting way. I don't think I'm misunderstanding it. I think you really have no respect for Most anybody on the site, Except for maybe your pals John and George. Your Condescending nature, and insistence on proving you're the smartest man in the room is really annoying.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Stop pretending like that was not a rhetorical question. You clearly did not expect me to give you a yes or no answer to that incomplete question. If you did I would have to assume that you don't understand the questions that you're asking, but I think you do you just think you're smarter than everybody else. There's at least a dozen variables between those two vehicles that run that time that May Affect the outcome. Most people on this site are not as uneducated and stupid as you think they are, and it's really quite annoying that you make it so obvious.

Believe it or not there's a bunch of guys going fast on this site, And others That never needed your help or advice to figure out what they were doing. Do you really think all the fast guys just got lucky? Were not as inept as you think we are.

I'm sorry if I come across as brash or harsh but I have no choice but to assume that you mean this in an insulting way. I don't think I'm misunderstanding it. I think you really have no respect for Most anybody on the site, Except for maybe your pals John and George. Your Condescending nature, and insistence on proving you're the smartest man in the room is really annoying.

Mike,
Yes, there a lot of very smart people posting on this site.

I am not sure what you problem is with me, but the way I see it, most of it is from you reading things into what I post that are not there.

Stan

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Mike,
Using your method to determine in car HP. If a corvette, and a mini van both run 8.54 @ 158 MPH at 3250 lbs do they both produce the same in car HP?

Stan

This question is most assuredly antagonistic in nature Stan...Really, take a serious look at it. I'm smart enough to know what you are insinuating,AND smart enough to know the differences in basic vehicles. Not dumb enough to guess at all the variables possible in two cars. I'm not reading into it, Im reading the question asked. So if the corvette has the wrong gear and converter, yet dead hooks. And the van is being campaigned by Billy Glidden with a small block with a clutchless 5speed....but the vette is driven poorly....maybe the van has less? what year vette? is the van chopped and lowered? For crying out loud what are we doing here? Whats the difference between a boot?

You got called on your bs. So if you want to try and make yourself look smart, try screwing with someone else....or better yet just stop the OCD crap.

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Mike,
Yes, there a lot of very smart people posting on this site.

I am not sure what you problem is with me, but the way I see it, most of it is from you reading things into what I post that are not there.

Stan

I honestly feel a little bad flaming you when I do. Mostly because you can't seem to help yourself. Your site is the perfect place for hypothetical mini vans to race hypothetical corvettes.

Just because some of us don't build calculator web simulators does not mean we are stupid and don't understand math and physics Stan.

The truth is you have a NEED to feel smart. Trying to elevate your intellectual appearance in the manner you do is not productive. I'm sure you're a sharp guy, but in all sincerity you don't have to keep trying to WIN at thinking. JMO

I'll concentrate on making the real car go fast.....you let us all know how much HP billy gliddens hypothetical mini van has compared to the However it was constructed undisclosed year corvette.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by mike leech

This question is most assuredly antagonistic in nature Stan...Really, take a serious look at it. I'm smart enough to know what you are insinuating,AND smart enough to know the differences in basic vehicles. Not dumb enough to guess at all the variables possible in two cars. I'm not reading into it, Im reading the question asked. So if the corvette has the wrong gear and converter, yet dead hooks. And the van is being campaigned by Billy Glidden with a small block with a clutchless 5speed....but the vette is driven poorly....maybe the van has less? what year vette? is the van chopped and lowered? For crying out loud what are we doing here? Whats the difference between a boot?

You got called on your bs. So if you want to try and make yourself look smart, try screwing with someone else....or better yet just stop the OCD crap.




I honestly feel a little bad flaming you when I do. Mostly because you can't seem to help yourself. Your site is the perfect place for hypothetical mini vans to race hypothetical corvettes.

Just because some of us don't build calculator web simulators does not mean we are stupid and don't understand math and physics Stan.

The truth is you have a NEED to feel smart. Trying to elevate your intellectual appearance in the manner you do is not productive. I'm sure you're a sharp guy, but in all sincerity you don't have to keep trying to WIN at thinking. JMO

I'll concentrate on making the real car go fast.....you let us all know how much HP billy gliddens hypothetical mini van has compared to the However it was constructed undisclosed year corvette.

Mike,
I am sure that you are a smart person.

But you do not feel bad about flaming me or anybody else, because that is what you do.

Stan

[67GTO4SPEED]

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by 67GTO4SPEED

LOL! And that's the other reason.