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Old 07-08-2014, 10:48 PM
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I'd love to know if some of the 79's shared the same casting date - old stock.

Somebody's finger needs some Bactine!
my white W72 '79's block was cast in Jan of '78,( Nov built car ). I have never seen a actual 1979 calendar year built W72 car. I "think" the 400 did NOT meet the EPA , or Cafe standards for the calendar year 1979.
I would venture a guess that some later 78 W72's had Jan '78 castings...be nice to know...
NO '77 engines were used in 79 that I have ever heard of.
In '78 there was 4,112 Std shift W72 made ( red book)

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Old 07-08-2014, 10:51 PM
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What's the "Red Book"?

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Old 07-08-2014, 10:56 PM
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Here you go http://www.amazon.com/Firebird-Redbo.../dp/0760303924


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Old 07-09-2014, 12:11 AM
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Look at that Amazon price?? Wow!!
If anyone wants a copy of a page or 3 let me know...

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Now don't go getting all excited........The Red Book is a decent reference guide,but there ARE some errors.......

Off the top of my head,some of the 72 #'s are just transposed from 71....AND... 4112 stick 78 Trans ams for 78 is NOT the gospel....according to John Witzke

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Old 07-09-2014, 01:13 AM
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Now don't go getting all excited........The Red Book is a decent reference guide,but there ARE some errors.......

Off the top of my head,some of the 72 #'s are just transposed from 71....AND... 4112 stick 78 Trans ams for 78 is NOT the gospel....according to John Witzke
yup its a reference to consider, not gospel, I agree
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Or, an original...
Thxs for posting the early 1st editions cover. I've both versions in paperback...that alone should entitle me to a free cup of coffee?
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Look at that Amazon price?? Wow!!
If anyone wants a copy of a page or 3 let me know...
Too funny! Thx for point out the ask $$$ I didn't even look @ that when I posted the link.
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Now don't go getting all excited........The Red Book is a decent reference guide,but there ARE some errors.......
Off the top of my head,some of the 72 #'s are just transposed from 71....AND... 4112 stick 78 Trans ams for 78 is NOT the gospel....according to John Witzke
Agree 100% IIRC some of the early 1st editions were misprinted and had duplicate yr coverage of some yrs, at same time other yrs info was missing...publisher offered free exchange replacement. Wouldn't be good if someone paid $650+ for one of of those!
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yup its a reference to consider, not gospel, I agree
Exactly. IIRC The original intention was to have a pocket reference guide for use "in the field" to verify OEM equipment, etc. when it was originally published in the '90s there was no such thing as portable "tablets" smartphones, etc.

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yup its a reference to consider, not gospel, I agree
Yeah, but I'm partial and I like that "4,112" W72 4-spd #

Anyone else have one of those old Trans Am production numbers posters like I do?

I had it professionally mounted and framed before all of the "expert" number crunching said it 'twas incorrect.
(It's right under a mounted and framed "Traveler in Time" T/A poster)


Can't wait until someone comes out with "official" revision of 1979 W72 4-spd Y84s that says more than 1,107 of those were made...
Guess that'll be time to scrap it or "LS it" like all the current hipsters?

No worries. Just having some fun "with the numbers"

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Nope. I do have a Corvette poster though.
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Now don't go getting all excited........The Red Book is a decent reference guide,but there ARE some errors.......

Off the top of my head,some of the 72 #'s are just transposed from 71....AND... 4112 stick 78 Trans ams for 78 is NOT the gospel....according to John Witzke
What has become of John Witzke? I have been continually referencing his '77 to '79 T/A 6.6 Historical Information. I ran into some of his posts here during a search or two, but it appeared he had not been active in 8 years or so.

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