[johnta1]

Any real corroborating data on the wagon Cd and the GP Cd?

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Any real corroborating data on the wagon Cd and the GP Cd?

Anyone who has ever tested anything in a wind tunnel would agree with my post.

A SUV goes thru the air cleaner vs an open bed pick-up truck.

(For the simple minded, above, the SUV is like a 4 door wagon and the open bed pick-up truck is not that bad once the swirl in the bed is established and the air off the roof hits the swirl and flies over the tailgate (never reaching the bed floor).

A bed cover is better than the swirl / tailgate up, and a hard shell cover is better than a soft cover. A cargo net is the poorest performer as you get drag on the bed, (no swirl) and turbulence at the back of the vehicle.

Lots of data out there, John

Just ONE article out of thousands out there to support my comments: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...au-1494-2.html Ford has far more accurate data from their own personal wind tunnels but I will not share that.

Tom V.

ps John, you are a LAZY idiot just trying to stir up chit.

[johnta1]

A SUV goes thru the air cleaner vs an open bed pick-up truck.

Read the gawd damn question?



I want the Cd of the wagon and the GP.

I already knew the truck thing is better, in fact I use one.
If you don't know the answer, just shut up.
Don't go spewing really off-topic BS to try and muddle the topic.



PS, I do have the data for them and you are wrong, wrong, wrong.

[johnta1]

Unfortunately the truth is the guys who are finding ways to do it really dont want to share either due to hard fought lessons and info or ridicule from self professed genius know it alls that have only read a website or copied what they think someone else did. Then claim its just physics as if fact and never learn a damn thing.

Basically same answer for you.
If you don't know the answer, don't spout off useless BS, stick to facts or real data.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Read the gawd damn question?



I want the Cd of the wagon and the GP.

I already knew the truck thing is better, in fact I use one.
If you don't know the answer, just shut up.
Don't go spewing really off-topic BS to try and muddle the topic.



PS, I do have the data for them and you are wrong, wrong, wrong.

John, since you have never done the job and can't possibly understand the data, why would I wish to confuse you any further. If you have the data, why are you asking me for the data? Why would I waste my time with your childish wants. Your posts are gibberish and make no sense. Your calculators are all copies of other people's work. Most are not correct to the degree that they are worth using.

How about some data on your Twin Turbo Dragster that you said you were going to build?
Still trying to sell the parts that you never used?

In the same time frame, I have been working on every generation of ECOBOOST and there are now 1,000,000 Ecoboost engines out there on the road. I do things, you talk and ask for data that means nothings. I wasted my time with you once, never again.

Tom V.

ps keep after them Mike, about the coatings, dyno corrections, etc.

[johnta1]

Speaking of gibberish?

Nothing you wrote makes sense.

Original reference:

Replying to Glenn.

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnta1

I know your GP is big, but the wagon aero is probably not that good either?

You spouted off:

For the same frontal area, a wagon will go thru the air with less aero drag vs a regular body as the longer body keeps the air straight for a longer period of time and less aero effect at the rear of the vehicle.

You said it was wrong, so you show the proof.

I never said anything about trucks, or the other crap you keep changing the subject with.

[bpenrod]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Speaking of gibberish?

Nothing you wrote makes sense.

Original reference:

Replying to Glenn.


You spouted off:


You said it was wrong, so you show the proof.

I never said anything about trucks, or the other crap you keep changing the subject with.

The 1Gary of PY

[GTO Dan]

Originally Posted by bpenrod

The 1Gary of PY

Wow...that is harsh.