[ho428]

Originally Posted by WARPed

X3 , without E heads I believe we would not have anything close to what is available for us today. The second best thing were aftermarket blocks.

That is true, while the KRE's had been the go to head for years the entry of the E head seemed to push everyone's game up a notch. Granted they might have anyway, but the E probably speeded things along showing the potential market was stronger than initially realized.

Blocks are another issue. The ones out there now are great race pieces and I hope to acquire one for my next build, but I still think a lighter/cheaper sportsman/replacement block is needed since all we have is 40-50 year old used Iron.
A more affordable block may also keep some of the LS swaps out of our beloved Pontiacs.

[WARPed]

Originally Posted by ho428

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Blocks are another issue. The ones out there now are great race pieces and I hope to acquire one for my next build, but I still think a lighter/cheaper sportsman/replacement block is needed since all we have is 40-50 year old used Iron.
A more affordable block may also keep some of the LS swaps out of our beloved Pontiacs.

I agree, it would be nice to have a cheaper block, duplicating say a RAV/SD455 style lifter galley, "straight" 4 bolt mains and even allow larger bores like the current aftermarket blocks have. But then comes the question, what would it cost to produce said block compared to the IAII or MR1's out there now?


There has been someone that has/had that interest & ability for that kind of block for a while but too many people have given him so much trash over his current offerings that this is very unlikely now.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by WARPed

I agree, it would be nice to have a cheaper block, duplicating say a RAV/SD455 style lifter galley, "straight" 4 bolt mains and even allow larger bores like the current aftermarket blocks have. But then comes the question, what would it cost to produce said block compared to the IAII or MR1's out there now?


There has been someone that has/had that interest & ability for that kind of block for a while but too many people have given him so much trash over his current offerings that this is very unlikely now.

... or how about a better one with options, like bore-spacing, mains, oiling system, deck heights, cam & lifter location, headbolts, material, and for less money in base form ?? ...

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... or how about a better one with options, like bore-spacing, mains, oiling system, deck heights, cam & lifter location, headbolts, material, and for less money in base form ?? ...

I agree 100% about needed better options when it comes to blocks. I also would like to see more options when it comes to lesser expensive rods. I would like to see a good quality rods at a price that can compete with the rods made in China.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

I agree 100% about needed better options when it comes to blocks. I also would like to see more options when it comes to lesser expensive rods. I would like to see a good quality rods at a price that can compete with the rods made in China.

... well you bring up a good point, as i'm currently working on coming out with my own forged stroker kits, which include very high quality forgings, the rods and crankshafts are ready, and i'm working on finishing up the pistons for the kits currently ...

... the rods will be available in standard Pontiac or BBC specifications, the crankshafts are a high quality forging which also carry the IPN process ...

... once i have the pistons in hand i'll take more pics and release pricing info for the kits or individual components ...

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... well you bring up a good point, as i'm currently working on coming out with my own forged stroker kits, which include very high quality forgings, the rods and crankshafts are ready, and i'm working on finishing up the pistons for the kits currently ...

... the rods will be available in standard Pontiac or BBC specifications, the crankshafts are a high quality forging which also carry the IPN process ...

... once i have the pistons in hand i'll take more pics and release pricing info for the kits or individual components ...

All American?

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

All American?

... crankshafts & rods material is imported, pistons are manufactured 100% in the USA ...

... The crankshaft is Machined offshore and all balancing & finishing work on Crankshafts and rods are performed IN USA ...

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

I agree 100% about needed better options when it comes to blocks. I also would like to see more options when it comes to lesser expensive rods. I would like to see a good quality rods at a price that can compete with the rods made in China.

Well that just won't happen. And the price on blocks is kept lower by competition. If one of the suppliers stopped the price would likely go up.

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Well that just won't happen. And the price on blocks is kept lower by competition. If one of the suppliers stopped the price would likely go up.

I know! But I can dream. I am having sticker shock on prices of Pontiac parts.

When I had money to race , I was running a Sbc. Now that I have no money I am trying to run Pontiac. I guess I am doing this backwards.

[hp 400 dave]

I don't understand the cheaper block talk. How much less will make it affordable? It can't be expected to be any more than $1,500 less. Run a stock block for a couple more seasons or sit out awhile and save the cash. Diluting an already small market could lead to vendors stopping production of proven and needed products due to declining sales. Stock blocks can hold over 650hp and are still around. My 2 cents anyway.

[455firebird1969]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

I know! But I can dream. I am having sticker shock on prices of Pontiac parts.

When I had money to race , I was running a Sbc. Now that I have no money I am trying to run Pontiac. I guess I am doing this backwards.

No, running a Pontiac is a good thing. Those chebbie's are dime a dozen.

[WARPed]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... or how about a better one with options, like bore-spacing, mains, oiling system, deck heights, cam & lifter location, headbolts, material, and for less money in base form ?? ...

I forgot about deck height & head bolts...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by WARPed

I forgot about deck height & head bolts...