[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Tiger Paw

I think Dragncar is saying the heads didn't have a lot cut and slice major mods and pushrods near original location. And cfm isn't the end all of HP.

I'd seen Mike's car , it was impressive as hell!!! I'm not easy to impress.

It's great if KRE are going to provide a head that gives you guys another option. Didn't I just read somebody was was having trouble getting HPs or Tigers?

Pretty much, Mike made it a point to tell me the valves were in stock location. "steel" guides, dont know, thats what the man said. But I do know he thought it was a little funny to have stock valve location E heads making 1220 HP, 414cfm and some heads with moved valves, laid over, 500ish cfm and made around 1300 HP. He liked it, and why wouldnt he ?
He was coming after some I got the feeling. Wish we could have all found out what the end would have been.
The 7.95 was done on tires with 40-50 passes on them. They were not fresh. He thought there was more in the 60 foot. And you racers know, if your car has any sort of pull to it, a great 60 foot will show up on the other end. Kind of all about the 60 foot in a way. When you have a great start, you can tell and hope for a clean pass and wait for the time slip.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

The 7.95 was done on tires with 40-50 passes on them. They were not fresh. He thought there was more in the 60 foot. And you racers know, if your car has any sort of pull to it, a great 60 foot will show up on the other end. Kind of all about the 60 foot in a way. When you have a great start, you can tell and hope for a clean pass and wait for the time slip.

Racers also know that very cool temps will give you more HP. He was flying never the less.


GTO George

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Racers also know that very cool temps will give you more HP. He was flying never the less.


GTO George

Its not night and day difference in power. And who cares, ran what it ran. Sick of the "mineshaft air" stuff. It was on a track and not on a dyno.
Our track (Samoa) has those all the time. Its on the beach, ocean on one side, bay on other. Upper Nor Cal. 70 deg is a warm day in the summer. More like 62 is normal and the first few time trials at 9 o'clock its in the 50s all the time. Best is when there is a little of that summer coastal fog in the air. Car runs a couple hundredths better maybe.

And 414. Bet it was more. Tried to tell you guys Mike said they were not flowed the last few times JM worked on them. Mike put it to me this way. Asked John if he was going to flow them and his reaction was like "do you really wanna" . Paraphrasing sure, but he really does not care about cfm numbers as far as making power. Says cross section matters far more. 414 is the best E head numbers I have ever heard of, 459 High Port(first try, Mikes HPs would have been higher) and 500+ Tigers. All by the same guy. Not a coincidence. Personally, I think KRE, All Pontiac even BOP, someone who casts heads and intakes should have him do a set of heads and intake, put the valves, runners, plugs, chamber where he wants. Instead of having to change it all, do it right as cast. Let their egos go. Money wise he would be better of doing a LS or BBC than Pontiac. I am just glad he seems to like working on them.
These Super Weges are another great piece from KRE. Now have a Tiger rival. Both 400cfm as cast.