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Old 12-13-2017, 02:56 PM
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I won't buy an import EVER. Fact is, I hate them all!
This comment makes me LMAO and it was obviously typed on a computer made in the US. Wait! What????

Hyundai/Kia has spent billions on new facilities in the US while GM spent billions in China.

The most American made vehicles are the Camry and the F150 while the GM's are made in China and Mexico.

I would rather own a Kia that puts food on American worker's plates than buy a GM product that only lines executive's pockets and put food on Chinese worker's plates.

You sir need to open your closed-minded eyes and see what is really going on out there.

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Old 12-13-2017, 05:42 PM
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Hyundai/Kia has spent billions on new facilities in the US while GM spent billions in China.

The most American made vehicles are the Camry and the F150 while the GM's are made in China and Mexico.

I would rather own a Kia that puts food on American worker's plates than buy a GM product that only lines executive's pockets and put food on Chinese worker's plates.

You sir need to open your closed-minded eyes and see what is really going on out there.
You are being pretty bold with your words there. And not to many facts either.

GM has spent an additional BILLION dollars on U.S. auto plants in 2017 alone and ADDED an additional 7,000 jobs to the largest auto industry workforce in the United States.

That increase in U.S. jobs alone is more than Hyundai employs:

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Hyundai may be a Korean company, but overhalf the cars we sell in the U.S. are made in the U.S. We have a technologically sophisticated manufacturing facility in Montgomery, Alabama, engineering facilities in Michigan, plus design, research, and testing grounds in California. All of which provides around 5,000 jobs for American automotive workers.
Hyundai sold 622,000 vehicles in the U.S. in 2016. There sales are down nearly 13% this year. So for round numbers, that means they imported 310,000 - based on the companies own words above..

Meanwhile, GM has imported a total of about 45,000 vehicles this year - out of nearly 2.7 million.

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The Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia, Chevrolet Traverse, Ford F-150 and Chevy Corvette rank as the top most American-made car models, according to the 2017 Kogod Made in America Auto Index. The Enclave, Acadia and Traverse tied for first, with the Ford F-150 and Corvette ranked second and third, respectively.

The Kogod Index incorporates American Automotive Labeling Act (AALA) data in its calculation and additional data points, including:

″ Profit Margin: Location of the automaker's global headquarters
″ Labor: Location of assembly
″ Research & Development: Location of R&D activities
″ Engine and Transmission: Location of production
″ Inventory, Capital and Other Expenses: Location of assembly
″ Body, Interior, Chassis, Electrical, and Other: Location of production
At least you were right about the F150...

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You are being pretty bold with your words there. And not to many facts either.

GM has spent an additional BILLION dollars on U.S. auto plants in 2017 alone and ADDED an additional 7,000 jobs to the largest auto industry workforce in the United States.

That increase in U.S. jobs alone is more than Hyundai employs:



Hyundai sold 622,000 vehicles in the U.S. in 2016. There sales are down nearly 13% this year. So for round numbers, that means they imported 310,000 - based on the companies own words above..

Meanwhile, GM has imported a total of about 45,000 vehicles this year - out of nearly 2.7 million.

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At least you were right about the F150...
LOL

You need to stop reading that GM propaganda and get with the real facts.

GM > https://www.wsj.com/articles/general...cts-1429457701

Hyundai/Kia > https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...arch/96779920/

Toyota > https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/09/toyo...ive-years.html

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Old 12-13-2017, 07:33 PM
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LOL

You need to stop reading that GM propaganda and get with the real facts.

GM > https://www.wsj.com/articles/general...cts-1429457701

Hyundai/Kia > https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...arch/96779920/

Toyota > https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/09/toyo...ive-years.html
I think you need to understand that GM is one of top manufacturers in China. They sold over 328,000 units in China in August, which gets them up to 2,381,834 for the year. In order to sell that many cars in China - they need to invest.

So Hyundai/Kia is expecting to spend $3.1 Billion - BY 2021. GM spent $1 Billion this year - which you need to add to all the other infrastructure they built over the last 100 years.

Toyota's $10 billion is over the next 5 years.

That combined $13.1 Billion is still a fraction of what GM has invested in their U.S facilities.

GM has more employees in the U.S than Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Hyudai/Kia combined.

In other words, GM puts a lot more food on the table for American auto industry employees than you seem to think:

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I would rather own a Kia that puts food on American worker's plates than buy a GM product that only lines executive's pockets and put food on Chinese worker's plates.
Your thoughts are what "Fake News" is made of.

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