[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

.... oh really, like the difference between 474c.i. & 475c.i. ???? ... God you're such an idiot ...

I think I have figured out why no one buys your Krackatoa garbage. The vomit that comes out of your mouth.
There are other porters who have posted here, and none of them, not one spews the crap that you do.
You have to give that ****e away just to have a chance of putting it on a real race car.
Those piles were circling the drain after Brians crack job. You had better hope no one else has a severe problem like that or your deal is done. I mean DONE.

[Jack Gifford]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

... no one buys your Krackatoa garbage...

I believe that quite a few of us don't mind paying Bill for his expertise.

"Grammar cop" again... The Opel brand dates back to the nineteen-twenties, GM's first German subsidiary. (Isn't opal a precious stone?)

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Jack Gifford

I believe that quite a few of us don't mind paying Bill for his expertise.

Then there are those that go here...you do understand dragncar, Bill is the port designer at Sonny's right.... just have a look around..

https://www.sonnysracingengines.com

What are your credentials?

[Elarson]

Sonny's customers are the deep-checkbook folks who want the best and can go wherever they want to get it. That says a lot more useful information than no-cost internet chatter.

Eric

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

Then there are those that go here...you do understand dragncar, Bill is the port designer at Sonny's right.... just have a look around..

https://www.sonnysracingengines.com

What are your credentials?

Sonny’s was good before Bill got there.

If he is that good he should start his own business and rotate the earth.

America is the land of opportunity.

[Aaron Quinton]

You don't work for any major engine development house as a head porter and survive without talent. The clowns here will argue but the data speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

Then there are those that go here...you do understand dragncar, Bill is the port designer at Sonny's right.... just have a look around..

https://www.sonnysracingengines.com

What are your credentials?

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Jack Gifford

I believe that quite a few of us don't mind paying Bill for his expertise.

"Grammar cop" again... The Opel brand dates back to the nineteen-twenties, GM's first German subsidiary. (Isn't opal a precious stone?)

You pulled a misspelling out of another thread ? OK cool.
Not saying Twin cannot port a head, not at all. He did not design the CV. I am sure he is trying to fix it.
What I am trying to say is he would be far better off just staying off the boards with his vile mouth.
I do not see any other business people/porters coming on here and behaving like he does. Throwing insults and names around. They stay out of it, its beneath them. Nothing to gain, can only lose. They let their work/products speak for itself.
And I am not talking about giving away his Sonny stuff. I am sure people pay big bucks for it.
Never met Twin. But I am POSITIVE he treats others around him like he does folks here. Yells at people, calls them names and hangs up the phone. Then calls them up the next day like no big deal. Real piece of work.
A CV engine with twin turbos WILL make big power. That is not in question. Marty made 1600HP+ with 265cfm iron D ports. The question is reliability. Its never been done before with that head so they have some work in front of them. And that is not a knock, simply true. Any 2500+ HP CV engines around running run after run ?
Me and Scott, who I respect like you, went back and forth over something small and trivial and it was over. Then he wants to jump in calling names.
He is better off staying above it all.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Never met Twin. But I am POSITIVE he treats others around him like he does folks here. Yells at people, calls them names and hangs up the phone. Then calls them up the next day like no big deal. Real piece of work.

You never met the man. I have as have many others. I've never been admonished, yelled at or even called names.
If you knew Bill ( or open your mind a bit) you would find that if he's yelling or name calling there is more to it than is apparent to you. Bill has no fear of calling things as they really are. No BS, no lies, no wish sandwiches or wishy washed politically correct statements.

AND... He is NOT TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THATS NOT BROKEN!!! Like any GOOD porter he obviously is going to improve things over as cast, but that doesn't mean it's flawed.

After the first 100 sets sold and enough demand for another run the cv1.1 came to be. Basically the same basic port shape but downsized a tid for smaller stock blocks with more "meat" on outer port walls to allow flows far beyond original castings WITHOUT WELDING. There are CNC port options that Bill developed and digitized years ago . Btw it's not as simple as just "magnifying" a smaller port.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

You never met the man. I have as have many others. I've never been admonished, yelled at or even called names.
If you knew Bill ( or open your mind a bit) you would find that if he's yelling or name calling there is more to it than is apparent to you. Bill has no fear of calling things as they really are. No BS, no lies, no wish sandwiches or wishy washed politically correct statements.

AND... He is NOT TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THATS NOT BROKEN!!! Like any GOOD porter he obviously is going to improve things over as cast, but that doesn't mean it's flawed.

After the first 100 sets sold and enough demand for another run the cv1.1 came to be. Basically the same basic port shape but downsized a tid for smaller stock blocks with more "meat" on outer port walls to allow flows far beyond original castings WITHOUT WELDING. There are CNC port options that Bill developed and digitized years ago . Btw it's not as simple as just "magnifying" a smaller port.

100 sets sold, that’s awesome.

They just decided to make the port smaller just because?

You drink the Koolaid.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

100 sets sold, that’s awesome.

They just decided to make the port smaller just because?

You drink the Koolaid.

... Like you have a clue how to size any part of a cylinder head for any application, lmao ...

... Man I gotta get that plumbers manual, jeez ...

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

100 sets sold, that’s awesome.

They just decided to make the port smaller just because?

You drink the Koolaid.

You have a reading comprehension problem or just omit things to alter perception?
I'll reword what I was getting at in previous post. Smaller port is to better accommodate 4.155 bore apps. Flows almost as much with a 2.15 valve smaller port as original larger valve/port. Yes the head is revised, to improve, not fix " undesirable flaws" . The bigger valve original CV fit bore size without clearance issues but many 4.155 bore apps simply didn't need the bigger valve .

[Slick]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Scott,
I read your post and believed I understood what you were saying. But based on the replies I am lost.

Stan

Ask around. Apparently he farmed out some of the work. But details are best left to those more familiar with the episodes.

Dragncar:

As to Bruce not racing right now, well Dragncar, do you design cylinder heads? You tell Bruce to shut up because his health problems stop him from racing right now, and non-racers have no right to speak. Then YOU profess to be a cylinder head guru, all-knowing and all-seeing; you tell other racers what they should be using, tell manufacturers what they should build, porters how to do their job.

You are a welder, right? Yeah, no one would take your advice over a man who designs superior ports in $22,000 heads.

Lil Jack:

Bill did start his own company. Anderson Port Development. Indications are he may rotate the earth.

As to revision of the CV 1 to 1.1, manufacturers routinely revise their products for a variety of reasons, in this case, to appeal to a wider usage profile. But you knew that.


You guys are mostly talking to your own little choir. You lie, you act stupid, you act crudely, you treat people who should be friends like s@#t. Everyone gets it. you hate the product. Quit making every thread here about that hatred. Those of us who couldn't have cared less are being subject to this BS non-stop, just like George and Tom Vaught and their mutual hatred. You guys ruin every conversation like a bunch of vegans at a barbecue.

Bottom line is: no matter what, you'd never buy the product. A 4000# car could show up running 6.0 N/A, with $500 heads, at your back door, at your strip, and you'd still find a reason to say it sucked.

Most don't care about your opinions. Please go away and quit spoiling the conversation for others.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

You have a reading comprehension problem or just omit things to alter perception?
I'll reword what I was getting at in previous post. Smaller port is to better accommodate 4.155 bore apps. Flows almost as much with a 2.15 valve smaller port as original larger valve/port. Yes the head is revised, to improve, not fix " undesirable flaws" . The bigger valve original CV fit bore size without clearance issues but many 4.155 bore apps simply didn't need the bigger valve .

BS, velocity sucked so you made it smaller after a few of the good head porters looked it over and then it was changed to a smaller port.

Don’t try to spin it.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

You all need some actual track time and get away from your computers and assumptions.


The BS stops on the ET slip!

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

.....
What I am trying to say is he would be far better off just staying off the boards with his vile mouth.
...

And your mouth never stops running. What's your point?


Jim

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

You pulled a misspelling out of another thread ? OK cool.
Not saying Twin cannot port a head, not at all. He did not design the CV. I am sure he is trying to fix it.
What I am trying to say is he would be far better off just staying off the boards with his vile mouth.
I do not see any other business people/porters coming on here and behaving like he does. Throwing insults and names around. They stay out of it, its beneath them. Nothing to gain, can only lose. They let their work/products speak for itself.
And I am not talking about giving away his Sonny stuff. I am sure people pay big bucks for it.
Never met Twin. But I am POSITIVE he treats others around him like he does folks here. Yells at people, calls them names and hangs up the phone. Then calls them up the next day like no big deal. Real piece of work.
A CV engine with twin turbos WILL make big power. That is not in question. Marty made 1600HP+ with 265cfm iron D ports. The question is reliability. Its never been done before with that head so they have some work in front of them. And that is not a knock, simply true. Any 2500+ HP CV engines around running run after run ?
Me and Scott, who I respect like you, went back and forth over something small and trivial and it was over. Then he wants to jump in calling names.
He is better off staying above it all.

... Good Lord you are really out there, all you do is trash the CV-1's and just about anyone attached to them, I've been absent from this forum for a very long time until recently, and you never shut up, you just keep going with your nosense, it's hilarious you say you don't see any other Head Porters in here defending themselves or a product ??? Lol, maybe that's because you only trash the CV-1 heads genius, try doing what you have been doing with your mouth at someone else for as long as you've been doing it and see what happens ...

... It's even more hilarious you think I'm being vile, posting vomit and such when all I've called you is an idiot, so my advice would be simple, if you don't want to be referred to as an idiot, then maybe you shouldn't be acting like one for near as long as you have hummm ?? ...

... But I'm sure you'll come up with something to blame others for your actions ...

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... Good Lord you are really out there, all you do is trash the CV-1's and just about anyone attached to them, I've been absent from this forum for a very long time until recently, and you never shut up, you just keep going with your nosense, it's hilarious you say you don't see any other Head Porters in here defending themselves or a product ??? Lol, maybe that's because you only trash the CV-1 heads genius, try doing what you have been doing with your mouth at someone else for as long as you've been doing it and see what happens ...

... It's even more hilarious you think I'm being vile, posting vomit and such when all I've called you is an idiot, so my advice would be simple, if you don't want to be referred to as an idiot, then maybe you shouldn't be acting like one for near as long as you have hummm ?? ...

... But I'm sure you'll come up with something to blame others for your actions ...

Prove the naysayers wrong Bill. Its about how you treat people, not me either.
Just make them things make big power and live and you can say shove it to everyone who has doubted it.
Then you might get another casting run. That's the goal isn't it ?
I hope Chief runs very fast BTW.

[JSPONT]

With all do respect, 9.7 to 10.00 car is not what most are talking about here. That is an average street car now.
Street Outlaw cars can run a high 3 second pass in the 1/8, that is a 6 second 1/4.

With a Pontiac, when you are 7's and below that is a real fast race Pontiac.
This is the race section. I have no dog in this fight but the plumber's car you speak of runs 7's. Few on here should comment unless you are one of the elite. That is just my feeling, so I have no comment on what head is the best. Each head manufacturer has some fast cars.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by JSPONT

With all do respect, 9.7 to 10.00 car is not what most are talking about here. That is an average street car now.
Street Outlaw cars can run a high 3 second pass in the 1/8, that is a 6 second 1/4.

With a Pontiac, when you are 7's and below that is a real fast race Pontiac.
This is the race section. I have no dog in this fight but the plumber's car you speak of runs 7's. Few on here should comment unless you are one of the elite. That is just my feeling, so I have no comment on what head is the best. Each head manufacturer has some fast cars.

Actually that is the exact range of ET that we should be looking at

Way back a set of head was pulled and a set of CV-1 were installed and the car ran slower. That was the start of the P & G show which continues to this day. With the claim port velocity was the reason the car ran slower.

I am sure others will add or post up different versions of these events.

Stan

[[email protected]]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Actually that is the exact range of ET that we should be looking at

Way back a set of head was pulled and a set of CV-1 were installed and the car ran slower. That was the start of the P & G show which continues to this day. With the claim port velocity was the reason the car ran slower.

I am sure others will add or post up different versions of these events.

Stan

Alot of facts in ths post

[JSPONT]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Actually that is the exact range of ET that we should be looking at

Way back a set of head was pulled and a set of CV-1 were installed and the car ran slower. That was the start of the P & G show which continues to this day. With the claim port velocity was the reason the car ran slower.

I am sure others will add or post up different versions of these events.

Stan

Stan, I just feel the guys that are jabbing at each other are the sub 8 guys. There are plenty of every head manufacturer running 8's and up.