[vtxman]

I was wondering the same thing. After reading everything I could find, I ordered the Gaterman lifters and the Goatzilla plate. (just last week) I am hopeful the plate will work even if I have to make some modifications to it. If that doesn't work, plan B is to order the Ford spider and dog bones. But I am determined to use the LS style lifters in my 400 stroker build.

I will post my progress, but this is a slow build.

I would also be interested in the success or failure of other attempts to use the plate or dog bones. Maybe someone has even found a better solution.

[NeighborsComplaint]

How a low-priced, aftermarket OEM replacement lifter would be less problematic than a high-priced aftermarket retrofit lifter still doesn't compute.

[Schurkey]

Originally Posted by NeighborsComplaint

How a low-priced, aftermarket OEM replacement lifter would be less problematic than a high-priced aftermarket retrofit lifter still doesn't compute.

The OEM has to warranty the engine for 50K miles at any one of 30,000 service departments, and all the customer needs is to have a VIN number and an odometer reading to prove the warranty is valid. The aftermarket "retrofit" lifter is warrantied on an individual, customer-specific basis. (i.e., If they buy a lot from us, we'll warranty a set now and then. If this is a D-I-Y, he'd better have a receipt and be within 1--3--6--12 months on a vehicle that probably isn't driven 10,000 miles/year, and maybe less than 1000?)

Aftermarket parts are often bottom-feeder junk with little or no QA, and potentially designed by amateurs/hobbyists/enthusiasts, and then invisibly re-designed by the actual offshore manufacturer by using inferior steel, improper heat-treat, imprecise machining, etc. OEM parts may be imported from the same hell-hole, but they're studied, inspected, verified, statistically-analyzed. They're produced in sufficient quantity to get "volume pricing".

There's exceptions. For example, GM built the Citation; and advertised how many millions of dollars went into the development and testing to assure a high-quality, dependable, economical vehicle. It was thoroughly engineered: Apparently, they spend one million dollars to design the car, and then spent four more million to carve all the quality and production costs back out of every single system. OTOH, Moog built a reputation on it's "Problem-Solver" line of parts that (used to) be a trustworthy upgrade from OEM--OEM with the mistakes and cost-cutting removed.

[NeighborsComplaint]

Originally Posted by Schurkey

The OEM has to warranty the engine for 50K miles at any one of 30,000 service departments, and all the customer needs is to have a VIN number and an odometer reading to prove the warranty is valid. The aftermarket "retrofit" lifter is warrantied on an individual, customer-specific basis. (i.e., If they buy a lot from us, we'll warranty a set now and then. If this is a D-I-Y, he'd better have a receipt and be within 1--3--6--12 months on a vehicle that probably isn't driven 10,000 miles/year, and maybe less than 1000?)

Aftermarket parts are often bottom-feeder junk with little or no QA, and potentially designed by amateurs/hobbyists/enthusiasts, and then invisibly re-designed by the actual offshore manufacturer by using inferior steel, improper heat-treat, imprecise machining, etc. OEM parts may be imported from the same hell-hole, but they're studied, inspected, verified, statistically-analyzed. They're produced in sufficient quantity to get "volume pricing".

There's exceptions. For example, GM built the Citation; and advertised how many millions of dollars went into the development and testing to assure a high-quality, dependable, economical vehicle. It was thoroughly engineered: Apparently, they spend one million dollars to design the car, and then spent four more million to carve all the quality and production costs back out of every single system. OTOH, Moog built a reputation on it's "Problem-Solver" line of parts that (used to) be a trustworthy upgrade from OEM--OEM with the mistakes and cost-cutting removed.

The lifters being proposed for use with the Injun plates are not OEM. They are aftermarket, off the shelf lifters OEM style replacements. Chances are they are also made in China.