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Old 11-25-2013, 08:11 PM
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I bought an Eastwood mig welder just to have around the shop well I have not used it much mostly small stuff no heavy welding .It stopped working a few weeks ago and I have been trying to get parts to fix it so this is Eastwoods response .The company that sells them to us does not sell replacement parts so basically you can throw out your 400.00 welder thanks Eastwood will be looking at a Lincoln this week.

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According to their website, it has a 3 year warranty. I've found their return policy pretty fair in the past. Although I haven't had to return anything like that... just some spray equipment that didn't work out.
I've got one of their TiG 200 models and while its no Miller sync wave, it gets the job done.

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Old 11-25-2013, 09:14 PM
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The unit is out of warranty and now I can't get parts to fix it I barley used it .They do have a good return policy but does me no good if it's not under warranty I can get parts for my 45 year old car but not a 3 yr old welder ..

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Old 11-26-2013, 05:11 PM
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did you try contacting the manufacturer itself or snoop around the internet

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Old 11-26-2013, 08:39 PM
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did you try contacting the manufacturer itself or snoop around the internet
Yes I did there are no identifying tags on it and Eastwood will not tell me who it's made by I found several similar looking ones but the also carried a brand logo not who makes them. As far as Eastwood is concerned they will only replace them under warranty and when that's up no more welder if you have an issue sucks because it was a very good welder for it's size.

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Old 11-26-2013, 05:42 PM
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Have you looked at parts for say, Miller or Hobart....Just to see if they are the same parts?
Sometimes Companies like Eastwood will contract with a specialty company to build things with Eastwood's name on it.
Post a link to your welder. Maybe someone will recognize it as a copy of a welder that you can get parts for.
I bought a Clarke (Italian made) welder from Northern Tools 8 or 10 years ago and it's been altogether trouble free.

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Old 11-26-2013, 05:44 PM
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Go to a local welding supply company, and see if they have any ideas.

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Old 11-26-2013, 05:51 PM
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Go to a local welding supply company, and see if they have any ideas.
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm suggesting. I went to the local AirGas dealer to get my tank filled and was browsing the shelves. I noticed a lot of the Miller parts looked exactly like my Clarke parts.

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Old 11-26-2013, 08:42 PM
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I bought a cheap unit from harbor freight 4 years ago and still working great.no heavy welding just panels and stuff I putter with

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Old 11-27-2013, 01:01 PM
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What are the symptoms?

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Old 11-27-2013, 01:30 PM
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The motor will not spin up when it does it's speed is not constant then it will stop I hooked a volt meter to it as the motor runs off a 12v transformer you can see the voltage drop off then falls to 0 when it decides to come back on the voltage will spike to 4.5-6.0 volts then falls off to 0.I pulled the motor out and replaced it did same thing then I tested both motors with a 12 volt batt the both run at the same draw whatever controls the motor speed is shot I wouldn't be so pissed but this thing is as far as usage goes brand new just out by time.
They have offered to replace it for 240 bones but it's Christmas and I'm broke.

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Ya give a description of what its doing.. or not doing

My Lincoln stopped working a few weeks ago or was very intermittent on the trigger pull it would not feed ...
Took the gun mech apart and adjusted the wires to the trigger plunger and works fine now... I would guess each time i hit the trigger it arcs these contacts gradually eroding them
A lot of parts on Migs are interchangeable... If you know what your looking for from the assembly manual you should be able to ebay it ,, or are there any local welding parts supply houses around you? Look in yellow pages for welding gas or parts


If I were ever to get another welder it would be a Miller or Hobart(made by Miller)

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Old 11-27-2013, 02:01 PM
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Not having a schematic, all I can do is guess. It sounds like a bad contact of some sort. I'd recommend that you pull the trigger apart and check the contacts. Also, pull any connectors and clean/spray them with something like WD-40 and do the same with any grounds. You should also spray the speed control rheostat, liberally, and thinking about it, I would do that first.

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I'm no welder or welder tech, but I don't think knowing who manufactured the machine will help you much.

Looks like Eastwood designed their own unique features and the parts for it like the circuit board might be completely unique to them.

That said, it looks like other welders offered under the Real Gear and Northern Tools labels. Its been compared to a similar machine from Century but seems not to be as closely related to it.

But unless the internals are same, which I kinda doubt, even if repair parts are available for these others, might not have the parts to fix yours.

This thread includes some pic of the comparable Real Gear and Century machines along with photos of the internals of the Eastwood 175.

http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...-Welders/page3

Do you have the Eastwood 135 or 175?

This link is to the Northern Tools 135 machine, thought it might help you since it includes a Parts List and schematics.

http://www.northerntool.com/images/d...als/164611.pdf

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Old 12-11-2013, 09:26 AM
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I'm no welder or welder tech, but I don't think knowing who manufactured the machine will help you much.

Looks like Eastwood designed their own unique features and the parts for it like the circuit board might be completely unique to them.

That said, it looks like other welders offered under the Real Gear and Northern Tools labels. Its been compared to a similar machine from Century but seems not to be as closely related to it.

But unless the internals are same, which I kinda doubt, even if repair parts are available for these others, might not have the parts to fix yours.

This thread includes some pic of the comparable Real Gear and Century machines along with photos of the internals of the Eastwood 175.



http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...-Welders/page3

Do you have the Eastwood 135 or 175?

This link is to the Northern Tools 135 machine, thought it might help you since it includes a Parts List and schematics.

http://www.northerntool.com/images/d...als/164611.pdf
You are correct after talking with Lincon they said I would be wasting money trying to see if theirs or other welder parts would work the internals are specific to Eastwood design ergo shorting out expensive parts would not be conducive to get back to welding I just hate the fact I spent good money and received no value if I had worked it to death I would not whine about it but I maybe have 10-15 hrs on it if that.
I would be more than happy to ship it back and have it repaired but that is not an option they replace them under warranty or you scrap them after that period.

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I would be more than happy to ship it back and have it repaired but that is not an option they replace them under warranty or you scrap them after that period.
Sadly, this is part of our overall economic problem today. Build cheap crap in China, when it breaks, not worth repairing, just buy more cheap crap. It's nice to be able to actually fix something that's broken rather than discard/replace.

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Sadly, this is part of our overall economic problem today. Build cheap crap in China, when it breaks, not worth repairing, just buy more cheap crap. It's nice to be able to actually fix something that's broken rather than discard/replace.
So being a stubborn a hole I took this thing completely apart inspected every solder joint and connection found nodda reassembled and to my surprise it worked alas only for a few minutes had my hopes up there is a red led light when that goes out so does the motor I feel it may be a heat sink or something that controls the power for the motor the switch works correctly with variable resistance from 0 up when I cycle the on off switch the motor comes on then stalls sometimes will stay on longer than others but always the same ending so disappointed as I am disabled and on a real tight budget that's why I got it in the first place but it was never used and I figured I would get some svc out of it my friend has a cheap HF Gas welder that is 4 years old and still going wtf so at this point I will have to rob peter to pay Paul so I can get my car done the console will have to wait ho ho hum.

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I agree with Rich. Sounds like a supply problem to the motor. Anything that current has to go through to get to the motor would be suspect and any grounds. Corrosion, loose contact at any connections, frayed wires at any connections etc., Check the trigger switch while you're at it. Use your ohms function to check continuity through any connection points. Shake stuff around. A schematic would be great if you can get hold of one but lacking that, use your eyes to look for any clues to bad connections.

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I have seen many re sellers use "Centry" welders with Tweko Nozzles.
I had considered a Eastwood welder. I have sent 2 of their tumblers back, since bought 2 more of same from another source and know how to prevent the motor burn ups..
Interesting thread...

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I went to Eastwood's open house in July. While in the car show, I spoke to one of Eastwood's sales guys walking around the show field. They were giving away a free welder that day, so I asked him who's welder they sell. He said they have them privately made for them in China to their specs. That is why you cant find parts for them or a name somewhere. That is all I had to hear to start looking elsewhere for a welder.
Good luck trying to fix yours.
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