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Old 12-18-2015, 11:24 AM
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Default 1973 Firebird Formula 455HO on Craigslist

Any one see this one yet? looks pretty original. To me the sunlight yellow is just very blah.

http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/5342723818.html

I believe my title is misleading don't believe this is an HO car.

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Here also. I am interested. Anyone close that could look? Was Ram Air still an option in 73? Price high or decent? Wonder how frame rails are?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221969980388...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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That's a nice Formula.


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To me the price seems very low, you ca't find one in europe under €20.000 in good original condition.

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WU3 is ram air option, yes it was available in 73

I would be nice if he posted his PHS documentation.

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Didn't realize its on ebay too, a repo window sticker with options is in the eBay ad which shows Ram Air option

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Looks like someone got pissed off and kicked the sh** out of the fender. Too bad its so rusty..

His production figures are off.

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I'm starting to like yellow more and more. May have to get one soon.

Anyone else prefer that the carpet would have been left in even though it was in poor shape. Stuff like date codes, seat bolt covers and hardware always seem to disappear along with the carpet.

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Anyone else prefer that the carpet would have been left in even though it was in poor shape. Stuff like date codes, seat bolt covers and hardware always seem to disappear along with the carpet.
Me too. But it was probably a mouse/rat poop-alooza so they tossed it out. I bet there are mouse holes in the headliner above the visors.

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Me too. But it was probably a mouse/rat poop-alooza so they tossed it out. I bet there are mouse holes in the headliner above the visors.
Might be the 1 piece headliner like my 73

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Anyone else prefer that the carpet would have been left in even though it was in poor shape. Stuff like date codes, seat bolt covers and hardware always seem to disappear along with the carpet.
Taking the carpet out prolly SAVED the floors....if it was ever stored outside...or in a damp environment.....YOU should know that....considering where you live...

A WET carpet becomes a science project....AND... turns the floors into a "rust fest" really QUICK..

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Taking the carpet out prolly SAVED the floors....if it was ever stored outside...or in a damp environment.....YOU should know that....considering where you live...

A WET carpet becomes a science project....AND... turns the floors into a "rust fest" really QUICK..
I agree that carpet can be a problem in a leaking car parked in the rain and has lead to some very interesting growth in cars around here but in the seller's ebay ad, he clearly states that it is a barn find flip car and that he pulled out the carpet 3 weeks ago. I'm just saying that I would have preferred it to be left in with a quick vacuum for the mice turds.

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That is some really bad winshield/dash corner rust. If it has progressed that far there can't be anything left under the cowl edges. Very sad. It's a cool car and still has the polyethylene valnce, too!
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That is some really bad winshield/dash corner rust. If it has progressed that far there can't be anything left under the cowl edges. Very sad. It's a cool car and still has the polyethylene valnce, too!
The rust in the cowl corners is not that uncommon around here......and it's caused from sitting/being stored outside when there is ALOT of humidity (rain) in the air..

It's NOT really always an indication of a seriously rusty car....

It's far easier to repair.... than rear quarters/tail panels or frame rails...and can be done standing up....

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The rust in the cowl corners is not that uncommon around here......and it's caused from sitting/being stored outside when there is ALOT of humidity (rain) in the air..

It's NOT really always an indication of a seriously rusty car....

It's far easier to repair.... than rear quarters/tail panels or frame rails...and can be done standing up....
I thought it was also due to those corner plastic deflectors not being in place? Pressure would force water past the windshield along the panel seam and it would collect in the corner on the inside. Guess I could be mistaken, but that was one of my memories.

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The rust in the cowl corners is not that uncommon around here......and it's caused from sitting/being stored outside when there is ALOT of humidity (rain) in the air..

It's NOT really always an indication of a seriously rusty car....

It's far easier to repair.... than rear quarters/tail panels or frame rails...and can be done standing up....
I can vouch for the rusty A-pillar bases as both sides were bad in my car. Moist salty ocean side air is a killer and in weird places. It is less work than rear frame rail/trunk floor replacement.

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Quite right. That is no easy repair. That is a structural area where three or four different panels come together and are welded to each other in sequence. Once the rust is that visible (like the yellow ebay car) there can't be much left underneath to "repair". Such a shame. That was a really neat car. The abundance of rust makes me think it has 127,000 not 27,000 miles.


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I can vouch for the rusty A-pillar bases as both sides were bad in my car. Moist salty ocean side air is a killer and in weird places. It is less work than rear frame rail/trunk floor replacement.

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That one looks like it had leaves or pine needles built up there and held moisture. If it's just one side, it could have sat under a tree on that side.

That plastic shield/deflector I mentioned can also hold leaves/pine needles.

I don't think one side facing the ocean would do it, it would still be the whole car if it was salt air that compromised it.

If the deflector was removed or was missing, the rot starts on the inside of the windshield, if it's a build up of leaves/pine needles, the rot starts on the outside of the windshield. Or that's my thinking/logic.

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Great potential......still has the plastic front valance....

It needs a clutch pedal

Floors look pretty good...considering the area it's from....

I had a 73 Esprit parts car about 20 years ago in the same colors....kind of a lame combination..

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How do you find out the number made with Ram Air? what is a reliable source for 73 numbers?

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