[MPNX2]

Can anyone help with decoding the following billing history? I am having trouble finding any reference to the options

[burd]

PHS?

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by burd

PHS?

That IS the PHS. The billing history card (invoice) is what PHS decodes to create the packet.

You have to have a build sheet (or list of codes, like from the Eric White book) to decode.

Although - I'm not sure how one gets the billing history card without getting the PHS decode.



K

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

....
You have to have a build sheet (or list of codes, like from the Eric White book) to decode.

On Keith's 66 Buildsheet they call it
612 Exhaust Control
614 Crankcase Vent

Exhaust control must be a GM blanket term , like with Chevy and their fancy plumbing into the exhaust ports.


Great condition on that Buildsheet , Keith !

[Keith Seymore]

Zone 23, Dealer 11 = Zone 23 is San Francisco zone; dealer 11 Moore Buick-Pontiac-GMC Truck, PO Box 276, Los Gatos CA

Invoice date 6/29/1966

Model 24217 = GTO 2 dr hardtop coupe

Z = Fremont assembly

KK = Reef Turquoise Metallic

220 = dark Turquoise interior

Box 34-2 = Radio Push button & Manual Antenna

Box 41-4 = Lamp, Parking Brake

Box 42-1 = Lamp underhood

Box 43-1 = Seat Belts Custom front and rear

Box 44-8 = Inst Panel rally guage cluster and tach

Box 46-1 = RPO P01 wheel disc deluxe

Box 53-2 = Glass soft ray Winshield only

Box 61-6 = Smog (per 60sstuff, below)

Box 62-1 = Ride and Handling package

Box 70- C and 71-C = 7.75x14 red stripe

Box 74-K = 3.55 axle (per 60sstuff, below)

Box 75-W and 76-W = WW engine, Man Trans with AIR, 4 bbl carb

Box 77-W = wide ratio trans

Box 78-4 = manual 4 speed

8838 and 9912 are the trunk and ignition key codes. Armed with those a locksmith can make new keys.

[60sstuff]

Box 616 is A.I.R. (Smog).

C C is Redline tires.

K = 3.55 axle

W = wide ratio

[60sstuff]

Here are two documents that pertain to a 1966 GTO.

Disregard the underlines as they pertain to my personal car.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Great color combo ! And some good options.
Should have gotten at least one order form page like this with the BHC you have.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

616 =
Option 612 - Air Injection Reactor (AIR) Exhaust System
Option 614 - Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) System

Both required in California 1966 with manual trans, went hand-in-hand with your WW (Cali) engine code.

Air cleaner (if original) should have a pipe going from it to the valve cover.
aka closed system

[WQ59B]

Online, for sure.

I believe I surpassed WR's listing in total dealers a couple years back - I have about 11,000 Pontiac dealers compiled (about half coded)... but it is not currently online.

[MPNX2]

Awesome, everyone, thank you for the help! While the car was originally a 4BBL model, it now has a TriPower.

Its claimed the motor has a YF stamp on the front passenger side of the block, not sure what vintage that is , also the manifold has a 093 stamped on it. I go and inspect tomorrow.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by MPNX2

Awesome, everyone, thank you for the help! While the car was originally a 4BBL model, it now has a TriPower.

Its claimed the motor has a YF stamp on the front passenger side of the block, not sure what vintage that is , also the manifold has a 093 stamped on it. I go and inspect tomorrow.

YF could be from a lot of different years , but most likely a 65-66 389 ,
since they used 093 heads with it.
The heads are correct for 66 GTO , the manifolds start further below the 093 casting number.

389 block will have 3 freeze plugs per side.

[Singleton]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

389 block will have 3 freeze plugs per side.

2 per side, right?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Singleton

2 per side, right?

Yes , and thank you.
Not sure how I crossed that up .
Photo memory needs a new roll of film in it.

[WQ59B]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Zone 23, Dealer 11 = Zone 23 is San Francisco zone; dealer 11 Moore Buick-Pontiac-GMC Truck, PO Box 276, Los Gatos CA

I list Moore as 23 011 in the '90s. For '67, 23 011 was Bernie Anderson Pontiac-Buick in Eureka CA.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by WQ59B

I list Moore as 23 011 in the '90s. For '67, 23 011 was Bernie Anderson Pontiac-Buick in Eureka CA.

We should let John Wallace (wallaceracing.com) know. Do you have a PHS, build sheet or invoice for documentation?

23-011 does not appear on the UltimateGTO dealer code list.

K

[MPNX2]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

We should let John Wallace (wallaceracing.com) know. Do you have a PHS, build sheet or invoice for documentation?

23-011 does not appear on the UltimateGTO dealer code list.

K

Keith, if you are referring to me yes, I have the full PHS documents. I have some documents with the car that I still have to go through.

[WQ59B]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

We should let John Wallace (wallaceracing.com) know. Do you have a PHS, build sheet or invoice for documentation?

23-011 does not appear on the UltimateGTO dealer code list.

K

UltimateGTO list has not been updated in 16 years I believe, and there's only a couple hundred codes there. I have found a couple handful of errors on that list.

My source is recorded as from '67 paperwork. 'Anderson' fits perfectly, alphabetically for a numerically low '011' code. Moore must have come in after '87, when the system got reorganized (my source there is '99).

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Wallace Racing has the most compiled list of PMD dealers on the internet.
He updates constantly also.

[MPNX2]

Thank you for all the help. I do have the accompanying PHS documents now it all makes sense.

Picked up the car yesterday after a very long day.

Ill make another post with pictures once I get it unloaded.