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Hey Kal....Take your pick!!! There are plenty of small cc aftermarket heads. If you don't like 72cc's just mil them a little. Get 65 cc heads. Get 45cc heads. Nobody is knocking anyone for building the heads they are building. Some of you need to learn how to read!!! All a few of us are saying is keep the turbo/blower guys in mind for the next version. I'm not throwing rocks at anyone. I used to race a 13.9:1 motor for years. I have now switched to a 671 blower for streetability and will be able to run decent numbers with my present setup on pump gas. I don't want to build one motor for street driving and one for racing. That is why I went with a blower. Some of you guys need to get laid or get on Prozac!!! Just calm down...take a deep breath... it will be all right. Thanks to AllPontiac, KRE, Butler, Edelbrock, Wenzler, and other who are making Pontiacs worthy of attention. Without pi**ing off anyone, I just want someone to think about larger cc heads for turbo/blower guys. You would think I was calling your mom names!!

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pontiac462:
Hey Kal....Take your pick!!! There are plenty of small cc aftermarket heads. If you don't like 72cc's just mil them a little. Get 65 cc heads. Get 45cc heads. Nobody is knocking anyone for building the heads they are building. Some of you need to learn how to read!!! All a few of us are saying is keep the turbo/blower guys in mind for the next version. I'm not throwing rocks at anyone. I used to race a 13.9:1 motor for years. I have now switched to a 671 blower for streetability and will be able to run decent numbers with my present setup on pump gas. I don't want to build one motor for street driving and one for racing. That is why I went with a blower. Some of you guys need to get laid or get on Prozac!!! Just calm down...take a deep breath... it will be all right. Thanks to AllPontiac, KRE, Butler, Edelbrock, Wenzler, and other who are making Pontiacs worthy of attention. Without pi**ing off anyone, I just want someone to think about larger cc heads for turbo/blower guys. You would think I was calling your mom names!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Old 03-08-2005, 09:30 PM
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well said, i would love to run a f-3 or f-4 procharger on my 63 tempest till a head is out i will run a high port.


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Old 03-08-2005, 09:33 PM
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Hey Guys,
When I designed this head I built alot of diversity into it. Rest assured the Tiger head is very versatile and 85 cc chambers will not be a problem.Bob and Frank have alot on there plate right now and are working out the bugs for the majority. Once they get through this step you will start to see the advantages the Tiger head has to offer. And I can tell you there is nothing that can even come close to the Tiger.
Like I said before,we have not even scratched the surface with this head.

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Old 03-08-2005, 09:36 PM
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In time we will expose the intake ports. If you had a winning race combo, would you post the pictures on the net to show everyone how it was done? Would a NASCAR team show the competition the port if they made more power?

Bruce Michel came to our dyno session with his intake and I was not even allowed in the room to help to put it on my motor. I could not even look down the carburetor after it was installed. I was not even allowed to hold it in the bag. It was like looking at a stock intake from the outside. This intake is what puts him out front at every race he attends. He looked at the port and said holly sh!t I wish I had that in mine. Brian looked at it too. And he liked the way it was done. He has pictures and he better not post them. Don would not even show the right port on the heads that he was showing during his time he was trying to get the head done. It’s not the size of the port, but the motion of the air that’s moving in the port. Bruce’s intake performance did not improve the dyno 1 horse power. What does that tell you? Nor did it take away any. He was so impressed that he left there puzzled to the point he was calling us all the way home. He will post on this head soon. He is a quite person and does not like the lime light. It takes a lot to impress him.

We are now testing the whole valve train from the cam up. We are look as to why we did not make more power then we did. The valve springs were doing a hula dance and we think it was the ramp speed of the cam that may have been wrong. We are not wasting time on NOT having a crankshaft. But we are spending money testing the valve train. A spin test of the valve train is what the big boys do. We should getting high speed films to post of the lifter, push rods and valve springs and valves at the seat at high RPM. I do not know if anyone of you has seen a bullet or rocket part at full flight speed, moving in slow motion. I have and can show anyone that comes by some declassified films of a missiles in flight.

As a consumer I would not expect you to fully understand what it cost to bring a product to market. The development cost can kill any product in enough time. Just to copy any product is not cheap to do. In time we will have a head that will fill most racers needs. Just be glad that now you have a choice. This head will break a stock motor in half and it broke an aftermarket crank in 21 pulls. Does that tell you something?

Just let us get it to market and from there we will customize it to the different racers needs. We are working with the best team out there in head design. The vendors that we are using are not cheep but very quick to solve any problems that we may incur. Yes we are teasing you a little to get a market reaction. The car companies do it all of the time. We are not like some people out there trying to pre sell a product and then build it. You can bet that we will not get a pie in the face on this one.

I will be racing our dog in Holly Springs Mississippi on March 19 and 20 if anyone wants to meet. He gets 25 races per dog bowl of food. And has no tire wear. But likes to piss all over the place. We will be the one with the AllPontiac sticker on the side of the dog.
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:47 PM
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Great, now Ray will want pic's of the the exh. port on the dog.

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Ray's dog. They always look like there owner.
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Thanks Bob. LMAO!

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atleast the front wheels are up

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mo:
Thanks Bob. LMAO! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Mo do you still have the 990 crank? I have a motor here for it now I think.

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You must really dislike watching:

Top Fuel dragsters and funny cars
Top Alcohol dragsters and funny cars
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Nostalgia dragsters and funny cars
Quick 10.5" class cars

the top fuel funny cars/dragsters are the most bad ass on the planet!! i don't know why they don't put doors on them though??? alcohol is for drinking, nostalgia dragsters/funny cars are for museums, and i love 10.5" cars, that is what i build for a living! there is nothing cooler on the earth than nitromethane!!!!

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as a side note: Bruce ALWAYS CALLS and talks to SOMEOME ALL THE WAY HOME!!!! Once he talked to me threw 3 states!!! Thats why he is the KING!!!!

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[/QUOTE]Mo do you still have the 990 crank? I have a motor here for it now I think.[/QUOTE]
Yep. Gonna keep until I get something to replace it with, or machine it to work in the IA2. Thanks

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Hey Kal....Take your pick!!! There are plenty of small cc aftermarket heads. If you don't like 72cc's just mil them a little. Get 65 cc heads. Get 45cc heads. Nobody is knocking anyone for building the heads they are building. Some of you need to learn how to read!!! All a few of us are saying is keep the turbo/blower guys in mind for the next version. I'm not throwing rocks at anyone. I used to race a 13.9:1 motor for years. I have now switched to a 671 blower for streetability and will be able to run decent numbers with my present setup on pump gas. I don't want to build one motor for street driving and one for racing. That is why I went with a blower. Some of you guys need to get laid or get on Prozac!!! Just calm down...take a deep breath... it will be all right. Thanks to AllPontiac, KRE, Butler, Edelbrock, Wenzler, and other who are making Pontiacs worthy of attention. Without pi**ing off anyone, I just want someone to think about larger cc heads for turbo/blower guys. You would think I was calling your mom names!!

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wow some of you take a little joke a little out of perspective!!

why do you have to bring up my sex life, mental issues, and mother over a few cc's???

even ray didn't fly off the handle on this issue yet??!!?!?!?



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Old 03-08-2005, 10:34 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kal schultz:
Hey Kal....Take your pick!!! There are plenty of small cc aftermarket heads. If you don't like 72cc's just mil them a little. Get 65 cc heads. Get 45cc heads. Nobody is knocking anyone for building the heads they are building. Some of you need to learn how to read!!! All a few of us are saying is keep the turbo/blower guys in mind for the next version. I'm not throwing rocks at anyone. I used to race a 13.9:1 motor for years. I have now switched to a 671 blower for streetability and will be able to run decent numbers with my present setup on pump gas. I don't want to build one motor for street driving and one for racing. That is why I went with a blower. Some of you guys need to get laid or get on Prozac!!! Just calm down...take a deep breath... it will be all right. Thanks to AllPontiac, KRE, Butler, Edelbrock, Wenzler, and other who are making Pontiacs worthy of attention. Without pi**ing off anyone, I just want someone to think about larger cc heads for turbo/blower guys. You would think I was calling your mom names!!

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wow some of you take a little joke a little out of perspective!!

why do you have to bring up my sex life, mental issues, and mother over a few cc's???

even ray didn't fly off the handle on this issue yet??!!?!?!?



kal
www.xtremefabrication.com!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>thats twice in the same day, guess imm getting a reputation atleast i say what i feel instead of sugar coating things

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GTOKID:
as a side note: Bruce ALWAYS CALLS and talks to SOMEOME ALL THE WAY HOME!!!! Once he talked to me threw 3 states!!! Thats why he is the KING!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ain't it da truf! LOL

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ray Cox:
atleast the front wheels are up </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I see they're pointing inward, just like on your car.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kal schultz:

...nostalgia dragsters/funny cars are for museums...

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I dunno...Spotty's dragster looks fun...I'm willing to bet Mongo's Crusader will be fun too.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brian Baker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ray Cox:
atleast the front wheels are up </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I see they're pointing inward, just like on your car. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Whatever it takes! theres another black Ta that the wheels are strait on, but he cant even get into the 8s so Ill let my wheels point in

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I made that pic my background. I cant stop laughing when I see it.

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