[Jim Doran]

Looks great Jeremy !

- Jim Doran -Some Pics of my 65

[stealthgoat]

Nice ride!
I agree with doing all these things, however, the phrase that immediately comes to mind is "there will never be a better time to do it" (“TWNBABTTDI” for short). “TWNBABTTDI” can be a BAD [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]
My daughter was born this spring and I found I was home a lot more, she slept a lot so I decided to fix the terrible paint on the stealthgoat in my "spare time". End of June I pulled my front clip off and replaced the damaged core support during a "quicky repaint", no problem anticipated to complete before the fall GTOAA show here (Southern California Gathering of Goats). GTO came back from the paint shop mid-July and it looked so nice I decided to detail the engine compartment, with clip off "TWNBABTTDI”. That turned out to be easier with engine and trans out, because with clip off it‘s no big deal to pull out the front and "TWNBABTTDI”. With engine and trans out it was simple to pull the A arms off and clean the suspension, "TWNBABTTDI". It was also only a couple bolts to pop the body off and replace the body mounts, "TWNBABTTDI”. I noticed my leaky rear main seal while engine was on the stand, decided to pull the pan “TWNBABTTDI”. By now the GTO show is long past, but there is a POCI show and a couple Pontiac Drag Days I could still make. However the crank was banged up and I decided to throw a better crank in there, since it was a torn down anyway “TWNBABTTDI’. I called around and nobody had a 389 crank locally but Dave McGarry had a 428HO 4 bolt shortblock looking for a new home, it’s no harder nor does it cost much more to rebuild a 428 instead of a 389 and “TWNBABTTDI”. With the front clip off it made sense to also replace the heater core, “TWNBABTTDI ”. With the heater housing off, a Vintage Air set-up would not be much more work to put there instead, and “TWNBABTTDI”. The Vintage unit however required me to tear my whole under dash apart, and I always wanted to clean up the gauges etc anyway, “TWNBABTTDI”. I wasn’t sure how my heads flow, so might as well have them ported while the short-block is being machined to ensure everything runs well, and “TWNBABTTDI ”.
I have found that there is no spare time with an infant in the house, no spare money, I have missed all the shows and Drag Days. It’s end of the year, my car is almost completely apart but I am still taking stuff off, not reassembling. I am now looking for another GTO to drive because I don‘t know when this one will be ever back together. S-o-o-o-o, you may want to consider what you are starting [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Tim Baker

[goatless]

Thanks for the compliments guys. Still it's not a Goat, but its getting alot closer with this swap.
Tim, I couldn't agree wtih you more. Luckily most every thing else on the car is done, or at least as done as it's going to get any time soon. Hadn't done anything to the motor previously 'cause it ran so well.
Now that Christmas is passed it's time to start buying the parts. Going to do the chain, oil pump, rear seal and cam and lifters. Does anyone have recomendations? It is a regularly driven car with TH400 and A/C. The rear has 2.78 gears that I plan on keeping for now anyhow (I do a fair amount of highway driving). I'm looking for something with good torque that doesn't completely die on top end.
The Summit 2800 has been suggested. Anyone use this cam? Thanks for the help.
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[b-man]

I ran the 2800 cam (Edelbrock Performer, same specs) in a '69 GP with a 400 engine. I dropped the compression down to 8.2:1 using 6X-4 heads, the engine had the original pistons/crank/rods in it.

I freshened it up with new rings, bearings, oil pump, and a Cloyes Tru-Roller timing set along with the cam and lifters. I went through the bottom-end mostly because when I got it the nylon upper timing sprocket had lost its teeth in typical fashion, bending every pushrod. Everything inside was still in excellent shape (crank and bore size standard, didn't have to bore it or turn the crank) even with 97K on it. It had stock log exhaust manifolds running through a 2-1/2" dual exhaust and a '72 intake and Q-jet carb.

Running a TH400 and the stock 3.23 open rear it ran 15.07@92 MPH in the 1/4 mile launching carefully so as not to spin the tire(s). The car was equipped with just about every power option including A/C. Not a bad running big heavy car (4100# w/o driver) with a stock 400 that ran on 87 octane. I was plenty satisfied with the cam choice. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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