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Old 03-09-2005, 05:27 PM
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Anyone know what the valve lenght is with these heads? Just wondering if they will be using custom lenght valves or if there are valve already out that will fit.

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Old 03-09-2005, 05:43 PM
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Good question slowbird. I was just wondering that myself. What's the deal with valves Bob?

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valve length? Bob C. has the answer but it seems like 5.5 or better? I bet some people will be using springs good for .800 lift. As far as valve availability, look at a valve catalog some time, valve maker, not valve reseller, a zillion sizes in large, extra large, and really big.

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guess the valve length will be around 6.400"?

pontiac prostock is 6.450" exhaust and 6.600" intake. don't know if there is another application that is close.

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Hey Brian, can we see a pic of the exhaust port?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pontiacs4ever2000:
Hey Brian, can we see a pic of the exhaust port? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>you mean this one that is the first post on the thread
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pontiacs4ever2000:
Hey Brian, can we see a pic of your exhaust port? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Thanks Brian....

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Old 03-11-2005, 06:42 AM
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My turn! I have now been to see Bob and looked over the raw casting he has at his shop. While I was there, he got a call from a potential customer, that asked me (Bob put me on the phone 'cuz the specific question he couldn't answer, concerning hood clearance) if the head compared to the E-head or Super Chief. All I can say is "no". There's no comparison. The only head that comes to mind in comparing the design features, is the Dart "Big Chief" for BBC. The intake runners are modern, not based on Pontiac design.
There is no doubt, this head will work. It is, however, a RACE head, requiring all the "fitment" other race-only parts (for most engine families) require. If you're looking for "bolt on" power, look elsewhere. If you're hunting big block Chevys, this is the head! Them cowpokes are gonna HATE this Injun!
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:30 AM
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Quote from Mr. P body: "If you're looking for "bolt on" power, look elsewhere.’’

The cylinder Head is 1 1/4 inches taller then a stock head. With adapters, traditional Pontiac intakes will bolt on.

With the standard exhaust port, Pontiac exhaust manifolds or headers can be bolted on.
This applies to both round and D port heads.

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Old 03-11-2005, 11:13 AM
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400cfm of Bolt on Street Power.
Oh yea.

Hurry up. I'm waiting. LOL.

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Old 03-11-2005, 11:35 AM
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now if we can only get a 4.600 bore

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Old 03-11-2005, 12:19 PM
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Sorry, Bob. My intent was that it is a RACE head for real, not a warmed over street design. I didn't think you intended it for direct competition for Edelbrock or the KRE D-port. I see it as at a much higher level. I feel, like Big Chief, it will be best on custom-built race engines, especially large cubes at high revs. I wasn't trying to say it can't be used. We know people that have KB hemi heads on "street" engines...

Of course, Dude will want a pair for his blower-motor!

I suppose it all boils down to what is a "bolt on" part, a "street" part or a "race" part. Everyone can have their own definitions.
Certainly no negativity intended! BTW, Bob was very receptive and cordial during our visit.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Bob was very receptive and cordial during our visit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Did he offer you beans and franks?

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No, Bud. It was between nap time and dinner...(:-

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hey i just noticed on allpontiacs site they are now taking orders for the tiger heads 2,395.00 a set i want the raised exhaust port though, i guess i better call tomorrow

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How much are they going to be with the largest combustion chamber ready to bolt on???

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Old 03-27-2005, 06:44 AM
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Any updates???

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Old 03-27-2005, 07:40 AM
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wondering also if u made the march 15th engine master challenge deadline.

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