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Old 07-24-2002, 01:57 PM
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OK.

Got my short block together. Rushing around with the 48 head assembly (cleaning the old Ram IV valves) ...I'm doing 2 sets of 48s with 2 sets of Ram IV valves....and 5 setd of valvesprings to chose from. Darn cheap.

My point is, the other 455 .060 shortblock (with steel billet 4-bolt caps is sittin. Could be an offer to Goatman. I respect his desire to decompress, relax, and enjoy the season without rushing.

I'm rushing, and don't even own slicks.

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Old 07-24-2002, 02:42 PM
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I got slicks. Wanna work a deal?

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Old 07-24-2002, 03:01 PM
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Mark, I really, really apreciate that. I would still need a set of pistons, rings, bearings, oil pump, and a balance. The deal I have worked out for the 461 stroker assembly will provide me with everything I need for next year. I'm pondering the purchase of a rotary style oil pump and the accompanying oil pan mods that it requires. I think I'll have to wait untill next year to get it all together, hopefully very early in the season. I'm still kicking around all kinds of ideas/fantasies/formulas/options. It all hinges on the chassis man and his desire to feed his steadily growing family.

I will have what I believe will be a .040" stroke, .030" on the rods 1970 455 "N" crank for sale shortly for that block, if you're interested. It will be cheaper than a set of used slicks, I guarantee it!

[ July 24, 2002, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: Goatman ]

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Old 07-24-2002, 03:30 PM
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Having one or two bearings show a problem is not uncommon. On Rodney Butler's motor at Chicago and
at a previous race track two different rod bearings were showing fatigue while all of the rest were like new. One bearing on each bank but not on the same rod journal. There may be other
issues here. Piston scuffing is normally a fit
issue, a loading issue, or a lubrication issue.
Are all of the pistons scuffed, Bruce?

The piece of metal breaking off is a hard thing
to track. If the metal went through the pump, the pump will show some sign of its passage. There will also be metal in all of the bearings, Mains
and Rods.

Sorry to hear about your motor Bruce. Hang in there and start again when your mind is clear and
you have the fire in your belly again. Tom V.

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Old 07-24-2002, 05:39 PM
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Tom, I haven't inspected all of the pistons yet. I know at least a couple of them are scuffed. I threw all the parts in the garage and have been busy with other activities all this week. I will finish my inspection this weekend, hopefully.

Mr. Swain, I appologize for my earlier comments, but perhaps you should keep your opinions, which are completely false, to yourself. You ahve no knowledge of who assembled that motor, or why it failed.

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Old 07-26-2002, 07:48 PM
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Upon closer inspection of the pistons tonight, numbers 5, 6, and 7 were all scuffed pretty bad. Number 5 and 7 were scuffed in the middle of the piston skirt and number 6 was scuffed just on the edge of the skirt. A friend that was with me seemed to think that detonation was the cause, but nothing on the piston "face", spark plugs, or combustion chambers support this theory.

Didn't get to the oil pump today, probably Sunday I will do that.

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Old 07-27-2002, 04:31 PM
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Goatman,

Did that motor have an Eagle crank in it? I seriously doubt your missing piece of metal on the end of that bolt hole had anything at all to do with your engine failure. I suggest you look else where.

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Old 07-27-2002, 04:56 PM
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Bud,

Thanks for the Slick offer..BUT I'M WITHOUT CAMSHAFT.

Lunati has let me down on the eve of Maple Grove.

Heads are torqued and I'm waiting for a shipping truck...it almost 5PM...guess they might roll by in the next hour...not.

Guess I'll work on a Q-Jet or something.

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Sold 2003: 12.00/112MPH/1.61 60'/26"x3.31:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Q-Jet-Torker/3650Lbs//18MPG 94oct
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Old 07-27-2002, 05:40 PM
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Tim, no Eagle crank.

HIS, sorry to hear that, man. I would have let you borrow mine for the event had their been more time.

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Old 07-27-2002, 09:51 PM
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Sorry to hear that Mark. I'll see you in the AM.

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Old 07-27-2002, 11:56 PM
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Well. it may as well be midnight, and I'm likely to take some lame 98 SunBird to Maple Grove.

Bud, I got your Q-Jet ready, and will bring it along.

H.I.

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Sold 2023: 12.24/111.6MPH/1.76 60'/28"/3.54:1/SP-TH400/469 R96A/236-244-112LC/1050&TorkerI//3850Lbs//15MPG/89oct
Sold 2003: 12.00/112MPH/1.61 60'/26"x3.31:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Q-Jet-Torker/3650Lbs//18MPG 94oct
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Old 07-29-2002, 01:23 PM
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HA! got the Lunati HYD during lunch today...classic day late.

Hmmm, do I go with the Solid or the HYD?

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Sold 2023: 12.24/111.6MPH/1.76 60'/28"/3.54:1/SP-TH400/469 R96A/236-244-112LC/1050&TorkerI//3850Lbs//15MPG/89oct
Sold 2003: 12.00/112MPH/1.61 60'/26"x3.31:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Q-Jet-Torker/3650Lbs//18MPG 94oct
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Just got word that my crank has a 3" crack in the thrust journal area.....................

Gotta love those 30 year old cranks.

[ August 06, 2002, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: Goatman ]

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Old 08-06-2002, 10:32 AM
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....buy an Eagle crank , all your problems will be solved.
BTW, I would still rather use my 30 y.o. stressed-out cranks! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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Old 08-06-2002, 11:49 AM
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I already did buy one. Will be up and running next season, with 461 ci!

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Old 08-06-2002, 11:54 AM
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I also have an Eagle crank, it's going into my new engine.

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Old 08-06-2002, 01:21 PM
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Just got word that my crank has a 3" crack in the thrust journal area.....................

Gotta love those 30 year old cranks.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And how many hundreds of thousands of miles did your stressed out crank have on it, and how many runs did it make after you built the engine?

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Old 08-06-2002, 01:23 PM
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I already did buy one. Will be up and running next season, with 461 ci!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What is the bore/stroke of the 461?

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Old 08-06-2002, 02:26 PM
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4.25 stroke & 4.155 bore... I am assuming he is using the 400 block.

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And how many hundreds of thousands of miles did your stressed out crank have on it, and how many runs did it make after you built the engine? [/QB]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Exactly why I'll buy Eagle from now on.

Scott, right on.

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