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#81
10-09-2005, 10:04 AM
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Jim's RA V GTO was a show car, not a street car. He didn't RUN the GTO on the street once the RA V was installed. |
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#82
10-09-2005, 10:09 AM
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But, if that's the case, then I stand corrected. Perhaps Jim will come on and confirm that. |
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#83
10-09-2005, 10:10 AM
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Put a blower on it and it becomes a monument that looks cool (for a little while) but rarely or never gets driven. Put an intake and carb on it, and you can drive it every day- with no hassle. |
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#84
10-09-2005, 10:12 AM
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All hail Scot Misus- gentleman landowner, record company executive, Pontiac hobbyist, and axe king of heavy metal... Last edited by theoldone; 10-10-2005 at 02:37 PM. |
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#85
10-09-2005, 10:26 AM
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I simply forgot to post it. |
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#86
10-09-2005, 12:02 PM
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I talked to Fritz and Steve this morning.Steve has 3 complete hemi engins,2 alu and one iron block,he also has a couple x tra sets of heads and at THIS time nothing is for sale.Fritz has not heard of any machined heads for sale in a while.A couple years ago there were some unmachined heads and alu early blocks at Bakerfield for sale.Fritz did say his hat is off to Jack for being able to actually keep a alu block motor together.He also said that when installing the M/T hemi head on a iron block he usually ground through the block and had to weld them back up untill the factory made the few special blocks for them.He said they actually had a titianium block to play with.He also said the core boxes for MUCH of the M/T stuff had wasted away when they were in storage before the auction.Tom
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#87
10-09-2005, 12:31 PM
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SSS- thank you for the nice words. What you say is true. As for my fueler, it is FAR from finished. Yes, progress is behind but will never be over. It has run several mid sevens. This doesn't sound to good on the surface but, it has yet to make a full pass. These were all part passes. No one has ever tried to run a Pontiac blown on high percentage loads. Another item that everyone seems to over look is that my car is set up to be in a LEGAL class. That means, no transmission, 6-71 blower size limit, only 14% overdrive allowed, only 12" nostalgia allowed, only 3.90 gear allowed. The other challenge is to make a blown Pontiac survive at over 10,000 rpm. Who has done that? No one close I know of. This stuff will take more time than I planned. So what? I am the only one who wishes their race car would run faster sooner?
The goals will be reached. To be the fastest and quickest Pontiac is just the first one of the goals. We will run 5s or I will die trying. How is that for commitment? Yes, I eat a lot of mac n cheese to funnel more $$ into my Pontiac efforts. the SC heads have given me some fits and has cuased most of the delays. Not to knock the SCs. Mine are very unique. Whenever you do something that hasn't been done their will be set backs. But, it will be worth it. I could easily swap over to my M/T HEMI stuff but, I want to make progress and set some goals with the wedge stuff first. There is a lot of heavy parts in my arsenal. Also, there is almost unlimited capability to design and build any needed parts in my operation. I am not bothered by those to beat me up and insult me here on the net. Most of all of those who do don't even have a fast race car of their own. They just like to shoot their mouth off. Any time you take a stand, lead or set high goals in life you will always have people that will try to put you down. I tell my crew not to worry, it will happen, it will just take time. I am not a business, all this spending and time is not a tax deduction, business write off. It is truley from the heart, something I do and enjoy just for the fun of it. It all comes out of my pocket. The junkyard helps out a lot too. Ok enough. This posting is too time consuming. Jack- here is a pic of the T&D 392-417 rocker stand. Also, I have the Stoll eng. Also, it is a pleasure to exchange posts with you. You can get many parts made for the HEMI stuff including, but not limited to, pistons, cams, rockers, stands, etc, etc. as for Jim Y. Yes, I did meet him. He was nice enough to let me park my trailer at his shop so I could visit family on Long island without having to haul the trailer over the bridges. Thanks to Scott M too for hooking us up. I had never talked to Jim before and I didn't know much about him other than hearing of his admirable accomplishments with his tube car. I can tell you his, I am proud to have him as a new friend. Jim is real. I mean a real hard core Pontiac guy like me. After spending time with Jim, I can say I wouldn't expect to ever see a chev in his Pontiac race car like some other "Pontiac" racers do! Jim has a cool shop and plans for a new car too. We see things alike in a lot of ways. I wish he lived closer to Az. I welcome all Real Pontiac fans to come on out to Az in April to Pontiac Heaven! No corporate nonsense! Steve Barcak www.pontiacheaven.org
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Hundreds of Pontiacs in Az "Real Pontiacs only..no corporate nonsense!" Facebook- Pontiac Heaven Hosting- 23rd annual Pontiac Heaven weekend- Phoenix pending due to covid Pontiac Heaven Museum in process Phil 2:11 Last edited by Steve Barcak; 10-09-2005 at 12:39 PM. |
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#88
10-09-2005, 12:59 PM
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Thaks for the info Tom. This guy says he has 3 complete original M/T HEMIs. Is it true ? Is he credible? Has anyone seen them to verify? I am sure he has a lot of rare stuff but I would not consider his word of having 3 complete as enough. Does he have pics?
If what he says is true than apparantely there are at least 4 of them including mine. Here is a pic of the (former) raw block on the mill awhile back. I don;t know if anyone (other than Tom s) who has seen an unmachine alum V block. I would like to meet Fritz someday. I almost drove over to the left coast last night to attend the Long Beach swap meet. However my nephew had towed out from Albuquerque to race at the Et finals at Speedworld so I spent the day and eve there instead. I do not question Fritz comments and opinions on the HEMI stuff. He is probably the best source as to what happened and how it happened. He can also share in what worked and what didn't. However, he is not the final word on what can be done. You are only limited on what you can do by your imagination and budget. The HEMIs have a lot more potential than many will give credit. I do not agree about needing special blocks. There are other ways to get around the ex pushrod situation. If you think like a restorer, you are trying to recreate something that has already been done. You have to think like a racer, you are bringing things to the next phase and to advance the design to make it better, stronger, faster. Mr p266- Who ever you are. ( I never did understand why they allow people to post without using their real name). Good luck with your HEMI project. Do it, it will worth all the effort! The another M/T HEMI on the strip will be a good thing. Steve Barcak www.pontiacheaven.org
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#89
10-09-2005, 01:18 PM
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Steve,Van dyn is a REAL player.He got into the auction early and knew Fritz and M/T early on.When I was very young,1964-1965,I would go down to the whrse in long beach and buy excess racing stuff from Fritz,that is where I first saw the alu 389 engine I now own.Very lucky to actually seen all that stuff with my own eyes.Also saw the M/T Ford Hemi in the Thunderbolt that Tyree drove.I know Steve has challanger stuff also.He has one of the special iron hemi blocks like yours.He said there was 3 made.He said he has 2 alu hemi motors.He and Fritz are at the swap every month.Let me know if you are coming over.Tom
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#90
10-09-2005, 01:36 PM
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#91
10-09-2005, 02:14 PM
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See, guys?
I TOLD you that Steve Barcak was a "Dyed In The Wool" Pontiac guy. Study that picture VERY closely. Now, tell me what you see. Here's what I see: 1. A 6' table and a pillow in the background. In his shop. That's where Steve sleeps. 2. A coffee mug. A big one. That's what he drinks to stay awake at night. 3. A blue plastic basin. That's where Steve bathes. 4. The big bag of dog chow. I mentioned cold canned soup before......well, things must have gotten way more serious.... 
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#92
10-09-2005, 02:25 PM
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There is a picture of Steve's exact stuff in Pete McCarthy's second book, because I also spoke to Steve and he told me yes, that was his stuff- so evidently he was trying to sell it, before he found out exactly what it was. I tried to buy 303 RA V heads from Steve long ago during the pre-internet days, and I found him difficult to deal with. I'll let it go at that. He's basically a swap meet parts dealer. |
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#93
10-09-2005, 02:34 PM
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Steve, Why not invest in an MR-1 or IA-2 block, and put your Hemi heads on that ? It would be stronger, and more reliable. |
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#94
10-09-2005, 04:24 PM
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Iron blocks are not practical with nitro racing. As unforgiveable as nitro is, you need to be able to have a block that can be repaired if damaged. also, removeable cylinders are needed as piston/ring/cylinder wall life can be short if/when something goes wrong. That is another reason why the 59-60 blocks are so attractive. They are very strong, available and very cheap. Another big plus with the early (60/older) blocks is the bell housing area is narrower. That makes the machined surface that mounts the oil filter housing closer to the crank centerline. This makes fitting into a tube dragster/funny car/altered chassis much easier.
Spending upwards of 3 grand on an iron block in a nitro car is senseless. Alum blocks are the way to go on any very serious blown alky/nitro (fuel)l engine. Also, my designed bottom ends are stronger than the current aftermarket choices. Contrary to your alledged 'first hand information' you mentioned in the rudy thread. My bottom end girdles have never broken or even been damaged for that matter. I will say here, whoever told you that is a liar is dishonest and does not know what he is talking about. That person is not credible. Another virtue is these girdles can also be put on another block to use when needed. The 2 forged billet alum blocks I am making will be the ticket for serious long term blown nitro racing but, they aren;t ready yet. This stuff will have to work until then. Here is a pic of 1 of several of my bottom ends that I have designed and built. It is without equal...MR1, 2, all pontiac whatever. Study it, there is IMMENSE time and development into it. It supports the whole block. SSS. Hey! That dog food isn't so bad if you mix in a little broth and nuke it (LOL)! That big mug is mechanic Keiths! That is one of his trade marks. I just drink from the hose. Steve
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Hundreds of Pontiacs in Az "Real Pontiacs only..no corporate nonsense!" Facebook- Pontiac Heaven Hosting- 23rd annual Pontiac Heaven weekend- Phoenix pending due to covid Pontiac Heaven Museum in process Phil 2:11 Last edited by Steve Barcak; 10-09-2005 at 04:32 PM. |
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#95
10-09-2005, 10:00 PM
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Tom- thanks for keeping in touch with Fritz and Steve. Maybe I need a new goal in life- trying to make it into VanDyne's will! To whoever commented about rare Pontiac stuff collecting dust- I suspect that many of us are guilty of doing that. It comes with our mindset- just can't pass up chances to grab a lot more stuff than we can work on. And it's hard (at least for me) to do justice to more than a couple efforts at a time. I was so intent on competing with my hemi, that I passed up a chance to witness a restored Thunderbolt with running M/T hemi Ford, just 15 miles from me! And yes, my hemi is temporarily dusty, but it truly earned a rest. For now, I'm preoccupied with curiosity about how my variable-cam-phasing Poncho will run. Someone said that my HPP article "only scratched the surface". Again, as I said in the article, I've got no secrets- I'll answer any question that I can. But I'm not about to write a book. |
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#96
10-09-2005, 10:06 PM
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How about letting a monk scribe your notes down on parchment? 
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#97
10-09-2005, 11:03 PM
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Steve's Old Junk?
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Tom S, Is this the same Steve that was always at the LB swap meet with alot of stuff, (mainly about 50 intake manifolds)? Seems like he was usually at the same space every time, 1st or second spot to the right of the main walkway, first or second row. I used to have his business card, it said something like "Steve's Old Junk" Todd |
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#98
10-09-2005, 11:09 PM
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Todd,thats him.Tom
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#99
10-10-2005, 12:05 AM
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STEVE, I don't mind coming out and helping you service and exercise some of his cars. A collection like that needs 2 good curators like us. All I ask in return is a small salary and THE Silver 70 - with a proper engine. How old is Gary now? 50 ? 100 ? |
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#100
10-10-2005, 12:25 AM
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I didn't care much for his attitude, but I guess if I was able to clean Mickey's shop out of all his rare parts I might be pretty smug as well. I think he falls into the parts hoarding group, (quite possibly the president). Fritz on the other hand seemed like a real good guy. I remember him telling me about how Mickey sent him out to destroy the stroker cranks at the shop by knocking the snouts off with a sledge hammer. He said that some of the snouts came off easily with one swing and that some took numerous swings. After hearing that, I was leary of chasing down one of his (M/T) cast stroker cranks that are out there for fear of getting one of the "One Swingers" Todd |
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