Would you buy the New GTO if they changed the styling?

[HUMBLER]

I'm sorry but any name other than GTO would have been stupid, it fit the mold much to well not to. Let's not forget the Monaro had a GTO version so would have been silly not to. A couple years later and they may have had G7 (with a LS7?!) or GXP option but at the time, no question in my mind GTO was right. And I don't think the name hindered or helped really in any way.

[455HOGT37]

Originally Posted by HUMBLER

I'm sorry but any name other than GTO would have been stupid, it fit the mold much to well not to...

What mold was that exactly? It's not even a Pontiac, let alone a Pontiac GTO. Sorry, I could not disagree with you more on this point. Very few people know what a Pontiac GTO is, and Lutz drove all of them away by saying this car wasn't for them. So at the very least, the GTO name pissed off a lot of people who would otherwise have checked the car out. I know, I was one of them.

[HUMBLER]

So been down this path but I'll humor...

Mold = GM, V8, RWD, 2+2, Midsize car that already had a GTO option package.

Any other name would have been just ridiculous.

[GTObsessed]

Originally Posted by pont3

So, by "more discriminating" you mean those obsessed with look-at-me styling, right? Okay, it's obvious you don't get it. Would you call Mustang buyers discriminating? Or Charger buyers? Discriminating buyers place quality above outward appearance. It DOES matter to some people. And personally, I don't even have a complaint about the styling. It's much better than what was available from 1973 to 2003.

Cars are like ladies. Everyone has a different preference...Why the f*ck can't people figure that out. You like your car...great!... stop *****ing because someone else doesn't. I like everything about your car but the GTO badge and the bland styling ...move on! As I said earlier if I wanted a look at me status symbol car it would be a BMW/Lexus Etc...(that's not my style)


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Ron Genovese]

Holy crap! were still beating the dead horse?

[Ron Genovese]

Holy crap! were still beating the dead horse?

[Old Blue 66]

And speaking of dead horses....... http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing...21942?MSNHPHMA

And now back to your four year old topic.

[Jeff R]

Originally Posted by Ron Genovese

Holy crap! were still beating the dead horse?

Yep. I called it on the 3rd post and it's still going on.

Originally Posted by Old Blue 66

Ive driven two of them.....what the point?? Oh I forgot, your just being and a**hole.

You do realize you can say "asshole" on this site. You just can't call someone an asshole.

[Jeff R]

Oh, cool. My posts count in here.

[Mr_GTO]

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2832510


Check this out!

[dancolkate]

Originally Posted by Mr_GTO

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2832510


Check this out!

"Global Vehicle Collaboration"!?!?

I'll be in AU in May. Hope I can get much more scoop.

[Mr_GTO]

Originally Posted by dancolkate

"Global Vehicle Collaboration"!?!?

I'll be in AU in May. Hope I can get much more scoop.

Yes, meaning more Holdens in the US and more of the Holden engineering in NA products.

The G8 will be shown in two weeks.

[455HOGT37]

Originally Posted by HUMBLER

So been down this path but I'll humor...

Mold = GM, V8, RWD, 2+2, Midsize car that already had a GTO option package.

Any other name would have been just ridiculous.

Call me a stickler for minor details, but I guess I just require a Pontiac GTO to be built by, Oh I don't know... PONTIAC!??

But the important thing is, it works in your head.

BTW, since when has the Pontiac GTO been a 2+2? All my real GTOs were 5 passenger vehicles. Firebirds and Mustangs are 2+2 configuration, not the A bodies.

[Matador-IV]

Originally Posted by 455HOGT37

Call me a stickler for minor details, but I guess I just require a Pontiac GTO to be built by, Oh I don't know... PONTIAC!??

Could you expand on this comment. I'm truly interested, not trying to be combative or sarcastic.

Thanks.

[Old Blue 66]

Originally Posted by 455HOGT37

Call me a stickler for minor details, but I guess I just require a Pontiac GTO to be built by, Oh I don't know... PONTIAC!??

Ive agreed with a many of your posts here, but Pontiac is no more than a brand name with a different grill these days.

[Mr_GTO]

Originally Posted by Old Blue 66

Ive agreed with a many of your posts here, but Pontiac is no more than a brand name with a different grill these days.

Pontiac is still Pontiac. There are a LOT of unique cars that only Pontiac has and are not shared with any other North American divisions.

I would just say look forward to more global engineering and car sharing. This isn't the 60's anymore.


GTO unique to NA. Shared with Holden.
G6 Sedan-Shared with Chevy
G6 Coup-Unique to NA
G6 Vert-Unique to NA
GP-Shared with Chevy/Buick
Torrent-Shared with Chevy
Solstice-Shared with Saturn
Vibe-Shared with Toyota
G8 will be unique to NA-Shared with Holden.

[455HOGT37]

Originally Posted by Matador-IV

Could you expand on this comment. I'm truly interested, not trying to be combative or sarcastic.

Thanks.

Simple, the 04-06 "GTO" was built entirely by Holden workers in a Holden plant, on a continent on the other side of the world. This manufacturing line was not even exclusive to the "GTO", it also concurrently spit out Chevrolet, Vauxhal and Holden versions of the same car. There is nothing Pontiac about the car we got. I'm guessing even the red arrowheads were applied by people who's paycheck says GMH, rather than PMD.

Remember the Honda Passport SUV of the 90's? Who built that vehicle? It was not Honda. Ever notice it looked EXACTLY like a Izusu? Sears and Robuck used to sell a car. Do you ever remember "Sears" auto plants anywhere? Who manufactured them? Ever notice they looked EXACTLY like a Henry J?

[HUMBLER]

Originally Posted by 455HOGT37

Call me a stickler for minor details, but I guess I just require a Pontiac GTO to be built by, Oh I don't know... PONTIAC!??

But the important thing is, it works in your head.

BTW, since when has the Pontiac GTO been a 2+2? All my real GTOs were 5 passenger vehicles. Firebirds and Mustangs are 2+2 configuration, not the A bodies.

Yup, I'm a GM guy so it works in my head. The world gets flatter every day and I'm ok with that.

You got me on the 2+2, I added Midsize and forgot to take out the 2+2 but neither here nor there the mold is a GTO, no question of that.

[HUMBLER]

Originally Posted by 455HOGT37

Simple, the 04-06 "GTO" was built entirely by Holden workers in a Holden plant, on a continent on the other side of the world. This manufacturing line was not even exclusive to the "GTO", it also concurrently spit out Chevrolet, Vauxhal and Holden versions of the same car. There is nothing Pontiac about the car we got. I'm guessing even the red arrowheads were applied by people who's paycheck says GMH, rather than PMD.

Remember the Honda Passport SUV of the 90's? Who built that vehicle? It was not Honda. Ever notice it looked EXACTLY like a Izusu? Sears and Robuck used to sell a car. Do you ever remember "Sears" auto plants anywhere? Who manufactured them? Ever notice they looked EXACTLY like a Henry J?

Ha, and what's the problem exactly? No car today exists in that capacity, nor any product for that matter. Well except for those shown on Cliff Claven's show! Ha. Last I heard a Mazda comes off the Mustang line so don't even go there.

My 70 is all Pontiac and that is great and I can enjoy it in that manner.

Actually, I'd be surprised if something even on it wasn't made overseas, anyone privy to if all parts on our classic GTO's were actually made solely in America?

[455HOGT37]

Originally Posted by HUMBLER

...You got me on the 2+2, I added Midsize and forgot to take out the 2+2 but neither here nor there the mold is a GTO, no question of that...

...or Chevelle SS, 442, GS, monte carlo, grand prix...
All of them are NOT Holden vehicles too. Could have been any one of them as well.