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#1
10-15-2012, 11:15 PM
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Not looking for name address and phone number - lol - just enough info and details to let us know its condition and status. A name or nickname would be good - even if you have to create one.  Thanks Man. 
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#2
10-16-2012, 01:25 AM
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Baron, The black/turquiose painted top car was ordered by my dad through my grandpas dealership. I'm a little late to the party, Rocky had called our shop this afternoon and talked with me since the old man is on vacation this week. I remember some of the options the car had, but will ask him when he gets back, and share the info. My dad had found all the origional billing sheets and paperwork from his roomates ram air bird, but has still unable to find the paperwork on his, and dosen't have the vin #, otherwise we probablly would have the car tracked down. He did get close to finding the car back in the late 80's or earlly 90's and it was in a small town in Iowa yet, he had hurd that the car was there, and drove around the town, and asked several people if they had seen the car or knew the owner. Several car guys had rememberd seeing the car, but no one had really known the guy, as he had only lived in the town for a few months and moved away. Thats the last known whereabouts and leads that we had on the car. My dad has a few color pics of the car that i'll try to get scanned and put on here sometime this week! Oh and from earlier talk on here, dad was the same dealer that ordered the 73 sd ta in primer, he had orderd alot of rare and unusual combinations of cars while he was a dealer.
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10-16-2012, 09:30 AM
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have lots of relatives still there may be able to assist.
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#4
10-16-2012, 09:38 AM
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and dont need any names unless you have them and want to PM me
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10-16-2012, 01:19 PM
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Would be great to see pics of such an interesting car in unusual colors. Has he ever mentioned why he went with Turquoise Roof ? If Diego knows that the car is still alive , i'll add it to the list. If not - we'll put it in as MIA - until someone verifies ownership. Can't be many - if any - others with that combo. |
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10-15-2012, 10:45 AM
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Not to distract from the RAII thread, but the Knafel 67/68 FB confusion was in part due to Knafel.
Bill put out 2 different lists of the cars. One list did not have a 67 FB listed, only the 68. This stated the 68 was a paint and show car. Another list stated a 67 FB only as a paint and show car. No mention of a 68. (That has to be the list Steve has on his site. The Knafel ad for the 68 1/2 shows the 67 FB. Being the 68 FB pictures show a round driver mirror, which points to a very early car. You would think that the 68 would have been ready and used in a 68 1/2 ad. The AMT model is listed as a 68 on the cover with no wing windows, but it is a 67 body. I figured for the longest time that there was only one car and the 68 was the 67 with marker lights and door modifications.
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10-15-2012, 11:28 AM
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Also the Towne Pontiac "Ram-Bunctious" 1968 RAII Firebird out of Winnipeg, Manitoba, red with black interior. Not sure if that one was discussed in this thread, but I didn't see a reference to it in BVZ's list.
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#8
10-15-2012, 01:34 PM
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Thanks for another better pic of another Ram2 Bird , Mike.
All i had on the Towne car is this small B&W promo that blurrs too quickly. i posted/mentioned about it in the GTO thread .. oops will get it on this list - with tonights update. The other Red car from Scott's source, Mino's White Automatic, Knafel MIA, Towne MIA. Steve Hoog was in contact with the brother of the guy who bought the 68 from Knafel. It never got mentioned - that i can recall or find in any posts - whether it was 4 spd or Automatic. Would be extra cool if its the car that Mino is restoring. 
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10-15-2012, 04:37 PM
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Here are the pics I have the 1968 Towne Pontiac RAII Firebird. I have some more of their 71 Formula drag car too.
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#10
10-15-2012, 04:39 PM
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One more, and a larger scan of the Towne Pontiac ad where you can read about the car...
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10-16-2012, 02:58 PM
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10-15-2012, 07:02 PM
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Just confirmed with the former owner, the R/A II Firebird I referenced above was indeed black with a turquoise painted top. He has the original paperwork somewhere in his files, but he's yet to locate it.
In fact, he and his buddy ordered two Ram Air Firebirds on the same day. His buddy's four speed came in about two weeks before his and it was a d-port motor. His came a bit later and was equipped with the R/A II. He had no clue what it was and it ran about as we'll as his buddy's d-port engine. It wasn't until he added deeper gears that he could outrun it. Diego, that's a good point. It's unlikely there were two of them delivered to Iowa but it's certainly possible. |
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#13
10-16-2012, 03:24 PM
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I know nothing about the car being alive. I heard about it from a friend from MI so I assumed it was from MI.
The older I get, the harder it is to remember stuff, or it's easier to mix different stories up. |
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10-16-2012, 04:55 PM
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BVZ
thats what I got in the Feb 1968 price schedule $14.74. Ive got a couple more 68 schedules of different date but they arent easy to get to right now. Im guessing you would want it for pricing this deuce which was late June?
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10-16-2012, 10:30 PM
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Any pricing sheets you unfold - i could surely use them. All i have are sheet T1 and T2 dated Feb 20 1968 Neither has anything on the Rally Stripes - i might be missing a page. Most all else has been contained on these 2 sheets, so far. Yep, i needed the stripe price to finish up on this Windward Blue Bird. |
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10-16-2012, 10:35 PM
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Windward Blue Ram2 Bird
68 Firebird Ram Air II - 4spd
Special Paint - Windward Blue Metallic Custom Deluxe Black Bucket Seat interior Zone 24 Dealer 100 Invoice Date 6 / 13 / 68 347 Ram Air ............................... blank 358 4spd Close Ratio................... 184.31 361 STT HD Posi.......................... 63.19 37P 3.90 axle .............................. n/c 382 AM Radio P.Btn .......................61.09 434 Hood Tach ............................ 63.19 444 Gauges ................................ 31.60 453 Rally 2 -with Custom Opt ......... 63.19 473 (471 Wood Wheel -with Custom Opt. 30.54 (472 Console ............................... 50.55 481 Dual Exhaust ........................... n/c 494 Rally Stripes .......................... 14.74 501 Power Steering ...................... 94.79 521 Front Disc Brakes.................... 63.19 531 SoftRay Glass ALL .................. 30.54 554 Custom Trim Interior ...............114.80 621 Ride & Handling ........................ 9.48 71K /72M 195Rx14 Radial White ....... 10.53 754 Front Shoulder Belts ................. n/c SPM Special Paint Metallic............... 93.73 Options Total ............................... 979.46 Destination .................................. 150.00 Base Price .................................. 2781.00 Sub Total ................................... 3910.46 Ram Air II .................................... 747.77 Total ......................................... 4658.23 =================================== Label Price ................................. 4658.23
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10-17-2012, 10:59 PM
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10-18-2012, 12:07 AM
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That was about an $800 discount off MSRP on a Special Ordered car. About like an $8,000 discount in performance new car money today. Might could get a deal like that on an inventory leaf catcher car at end of year maybe. He must have had a really good friend at that dealership - like probably the owner. Some kinda inside track he was riding anyway. Or maybe an advertised special promotional sale ? $125 over dealer invoice was a Killer Deal on a special order. 58k mile Cali Car should be in pretty good shape still being original family owned. How bad did you beat on it when you were younger ? Or did Pop ever let you drive it in your youth ? In other words - just how much azz does this Bird haul ? Did it scare your friends , or your kids ? Man, thanks for sharing. This is great |
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10-16-2012, 08:09 PM
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There's a Black/black 4spd that needs to be added to the list BVZ - I should have the PHS on it shortly.
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10-16-2012, 09:11 PM
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Those would have been great to have now. Know who may have been the replacement?
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