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Old 06-06-2008, 05:26 PM
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[QUOTE=Skip Fix;3311908]I will agree let's not get this into a KRE bash.

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I agree Skip. I believe the guy(428 Bird) is just a hobbiest that has never had an aftermarket block before. This is not a shot at him in anyway. Having never had a race block I can see where he would have some questions about his finds. 428Bird, I'm sure you will be very happy with your new block and I hope the professionals (Mr-Pbody and P-Dude ) helped clear up some of your questions. On a side note, the "New" MR-1 (as Listed on their web sight) has proven itself in cars like GTOGeorges and Brad Smulands. Everyone (self included) jumps on the past issues but forgets it is a new product made in a different foundry with some major changes for the better.

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Old 06-06-2008, 05:39 PM
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Guys two of us here that have had first hand experience say lets get it back to his question and stay with IA blocks. No cheerleading either!

Aftermarket blocks are a new deal for alot of us in the Pontiac community-old hat for many Chevy guys. There is a little learning curve but a good machinist can help figure them out.

Even different AN pipe fittings in the same brand fit differently in the same tapped hole sometimes.

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Old 06-06-2008, 08:49 PM
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It may not be perfect, but I'm sure they would refund you, not tell you it's yours, run it up your a$$ like another vendor!!!!!!!!
Bill, is this a problem YOU had with the (another vender)or YOU just repeating what other people have said or posted.

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Old 06-06-2008, 09:03 PM
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Guys two of us here that have had first hand experience say lets get it back to his question and stay with IA blocks. No cheerleading either!
Well, I mentioned my rear plug. My midplate is solid across with only a large enough hole for the flexplate to be attached to the crank. Midplates that more closely resemble the outline of the bellhousing (like a big letter "C") would probably not have clearance issues like I had with this plug.

Another issue, although minor, is dowel pins. Why no dowel pins on the back of the block for the bell housing? A very minor and easily rectifiable issue, but still?

I'm running the brass "freeze" plugs in the side of mine, but I'm not going to run any coolant in the block so I'm not concerned about potential porosity. The other "freeze" plugs AP offers with the O-rings look pretty keen. If I were running coolant, I'd have them in my block.

For the money, and the documented upgrades over an OEM and IA-1 block, it's worth every penny. Hey, every IA-2 comes with a sonic sheet. With a 4.180 bore (as delivered) all of my cylinder walls are more than .400" thick.

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Old 06-06-2008, 09:53 PM
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I have personally owned three IA-2 blocks. Went over each one carefully. With any aftermarket block as Ken and Mr P-Body said you need to know the normal prep items.

Each issue with the blocks I believe was resolved by Bob and Frank to everyones satisfaction. Customer Service!!

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Old 06-06-2008, 09:55 PM
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I will agree let's not get this into a KRE bash.

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I agree Skip. I believe the guy(428 Bird) is just a hobbiest that has never had an aftermarket block before. This is not a shot at him in anyway. Having never had a race block I can see where he would have some questions about his finds. 428Bird, I'm sure you will be very happy with your new block and I hope the professionals (Mr-Pbody and P-Dude ) helped clear up some of your questions. On a side note, the "New" MR-1 (as Listed on their web sight) has proven itself in cars like GTOGeorges and Brad Smulands. Everyone (self included) jumps on the past issues but forgets it is a new product made in a different foundry with some major changes for the better.
D I, Scott, I have to give YOU a TON, a TON of credit for this post. That is all that is needed to SAY. You are a decent man Scott!!!!!

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Old 06-06-2008, 09:58 PM
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Stallion, You need to also look at the posts I made about the aluminum billet race block KRE has (that Mellott showed me) that I was bragging up.

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Stallion, You need to also look at the posts I made about the aluminum billet race block KRE has (that Mellott showed me) that I was bragging up.

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Sorry Tom, I did not see that thread. Like I said to you in my PM, it will be hard for me to dislike a man that says kind words about my son and me. Thank You for that and this. Maurice.

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Old 06-07-2008, 02:24 AM
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As been stated before by others on here, the Pontiac crowd is in a learning curve on the differences of aftermarket blocks that the competition is used to. I would think a call to Bob and Frank at All Pontiac would resolve any issues the starter of this thread has. Also calling people who have experience with the IAII blocks such as the engine builder like P Dude or any of the others here would certainly be a worthwhile call.

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Old 06-07-2008, 09:09 AM
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Brian You look like you have lost weight!

and since i dont get to BYB often Ill take the oppertunity while I can,
The connection between the too is "Lard"

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Old 06-07-2008, 09:13 AM
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I have in the last 3 years, but I still need to lose quite a bit more...about the weight of a small Japanese woman to be exact.

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Old 06-07-2008, 09:33 AM
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Even though we on this site all know that you have NO life(just look at the number of posts) you just continue to amaze me on these type of posts. What have the Kauffman's ever done to you, answer : of course NOTHING, but you continue your vendetta towards them. Even though I have NEVER met you personally, never talked to you on the phone,only posted on this site against you, I was told you are really F*T. I do not know that because I have never met you but I am told over and over and over that you are. So I guess that every time a thread starts and you post I can also post that you are F*T right, that is the truth. Of course it has nothing to do with the thread but I just want everyone to know THE TRUTH that you are, just like you do to the Kauffman's. Another thing that really amazes me is your knowledge of EVERYTHING but you still can not use your wealth of knowledge to put that FUNNY car on the track.(tell us why you can't/won't again and again and again) Brian it is to bad that because of alot of you posts people dislike YOU, ME included. Most people dislike YOU because of all your NEGATIVE posts. You and your buddies MAY dislike me because of my positive posts, can any of you guys see the difference(probability not) Brian all you are is a PYROMANIAC, all you and your buddies WANT to do is add gas to the fire instead of trying to put out the fire, like I AM trying to DO. DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE (PROBABILITY NOT)!!!!! To bad I have to dislike a man I have never met!!!
Read it Again and again and again. You MIGHT understand it (but probability NOT)All I am TRYING to DO Brian is to be like you and your buddies changing the focus of the thread to suit your purpose,your vendetta. What I said in my post is all true and if you and your buddies don't believe the TRYING I said TRYING to put out the fire part ask DI or the Kauffman's. You are a PYROMANIAC, it is all here in black and white so keep on posting we will see who laughs LAST, it is really hard to say you did not say stuff when it is right here in front of all of us. I will contuine toTRY to help Scott and KRE settle their differences, you Brian keep on adding gas to the fire,you are great at that. To end with your FUNNY car why don't you do like most of us do, talk the talk,walk the walk. Smack talk at the track, shake hands, hug after the race and have RESPECT for what we all have done with our cars!!!

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Old 06-07-2008, 09:51 AM
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I've already walked the walk in a different medium, Maurice...a door car. Funny car is a new learning curve. You ever tried restoring a 30 year old hulk of metal and fiberglass that has no over the counter parts available for it, where everything needs to be custom made to fit it? It ain't the same as strolling to your chassis shop and placing an order for new pipe and having components hung from it that are all readily available from different outlets. I just got custom brake rotors delivered last week after waiting nearly 5 months for them.

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Old 06-07-2008, 10:02 AM
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Maurice , I think I started trying to get the thread back on track besides DI. We both personally had documented issues(mine were 2 others besides something I can't talk about) and said let's move on. Seems like you and Chris seem to egg on Brian in distracting the thread. How about we stop the cheerleading!

There are two sides to a story-Chris you really want to go there?? I think there is enough in any search with pictures to easily document undeniable issues that forced a recall. Let's all move on and stop denying those happened, or I guess we can go to court to stifle any comments that they did happen.

As I said before also I hope the issues are resolved with the "new" MR-1 , KRE heads, and any machining they do.

Let's get back to "normal" issues with aftermarket blocks and how to resolve them, hopefully minor enough to not need the product to be sent back. If they are that bad I do think a search can turn up how each company handles ALL their customers.

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Old 06-07-2008, 10:06 AM
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:13 AM
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There are two sides to a story-Chris you really want to go there??
Skip, go where? All I'm saying is, by the amount of sh#t that gets tossed around on the internet, I'm a big enough boy to come to my own conclusions, right, wrong or indifferent.

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Old 06-07-2008, 10:57 AM
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Skip, go where? All I'm saying is, by the amount of sh#t that gets tossed around on the internet, I'm a big enough boy to come to my own conclusions, right, wrong or indifferent.

Chris, Stallion, and Gil.......... you do admit there were major quality control, both in house and manufactures, issues with some of the first castings of blocks. Thus leading to a limited warranty recall on certain selected block castings? Right?

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Old 06-07-2008, 10:58 AM
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"I've already walked the walk in a different medium, Maurice...a door car."

I remember that event well at Norwalk, Brian. That was the year I first met Larry Davis and Ray Cox. Ray broke his Chit so he and Larry tag-teamed on your car late into the night as you went round after round after round. Impressed a lot of people with that deal. Quick 8 deal you make a small number of passes to possibly win. Your deal was you went through a lot of rounds, good driving there by the way.

I am impressed with the way Brian looks. He got his back fixed. He has lost a bunch of weight, He showed his funny car at VMP, etc,etc.

To me that says persistance. That is the part that you guys do not like. He doesn't give up, he keeps coming back. The rest of you guys just want to move on to the next "Flame Job". JMO

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Old 06-07-2008, 11:10 AM
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Thank you, Tom. That was Norwalk 2003...first time (and only time) I met Larry Davis. I think the first time I met Ray too. We had one helluva time that year, I'll never forget it. I think I had a lot of luck on my side that day too to go 7 rounds and get down to just 6 cars left before losing to Jon Gunter. My luck ran out on that pass...I tree'd him big time (still have that ET slip) but the car burped on launch...bottle was too cold. That was the first race I got the nitrous dialed in too. To be honest, I was amazed it ran so consistently pass after pass...I must have been listening when Ken Keefer gave me all that tuning advice.

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Old 06-07-2008, 11:28 AM
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The Bottle was cold Brian, because it was in the middle of the friggin night, well after midnight. LOL. Those bracket deals I have seen run til 4:00 am some times due to the number of cars and track issues.

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