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Old 10-30-2008, 08:51 PM
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Made in China.

Need I say more?

We gave them the one thing we were good at, quality manufacturing, and they're F'ing it up.

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Exactly the same situation we had on my Buddies SBC Malibu, we had to send it back and demanded his money back! Put a stock balancer on in the mean time so he could
get the timing right and go racing! Sorry to say these should be avoided at all cost, and I don't like slammin products but this obviously can ruin someones motor, time, & hard earned cash because of a poorly designed product!
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:27 PM
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did u get your money back?

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Old 10-30-2008, 09:39 PM
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ATI for me.
I like saving money as much as the next guy but some thing you cant go cheap on. Pro products looks like most all their stuff is crap.

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Old 10-30-2008, 09:57 PM
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All they would do was send a replacement...I just recieved it today. It has a 1 year warranty. Does anyone want to buy a NEW balancer??? It is in a new box and has the SFI sticker....come on anybody...

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If the outer ring is rotating and the timing mark is off, apparently its easy enough to fix. From the second paragraph of Pro Products install sheet (complete pdf below)

"We suggest you line up the TDC mark of the damper with the timing tab before removal. After installing new damper, if marks don't line up, you will need to get an aftermarket bolt-on timing tab or possibly make a custom one for your application."

So if the PP damper is not indexed correctly just move the timing tab and all will be well ? WTF!!!
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ATI for me.
I like saving money as much as the next guy but some thing you cant go cheap on. Pro products looks like most all their stuff is crap.
I'm looking for a quality balancer right now.......not afraid to spend some money on it, but it seems to me to spend $400 on a ATI balancer and then to have to modify my crank pulley cuz the ATI balancer is configured for a 3 bolt pulley just ain't right.........

Am I missing something? Please correct me if I'm wrong, or suggestions for a quality balancer?

Are the newer $50 GM ones any good since they discontinued the old P/N 477681 $125 piece?

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i have a new pp balancer on the shelf too, got it from sdperf. now iam thinking i should have put it on the " junk from the garge" list of things to put on ebay a few weeks ago. at least it was only 60 bucks

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Old 10-30-2008, 11:48 PM
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I bought a fluid damper here is the part # on summit 650401 I've had this thing on my motor for 2 years with rpms @ 6600 with no problems.It pays to spend the money.

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I'm looking for a quality balancer right now.......not afraid to spend some money on it, but it seems to me to spend $400 on a ATI balancer and then to have to modify my crank pulley cuz the ATI balancer is configured for a 3 bolt pulley just ain't right.........

Am I missing something? Please correct me if I'm wrong, or suggestions for a quality balancer?

Are the newer $50 GM ones any good since they discontinued the old P/N 477681 $125 piece?

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Buy the ATI and be done with it. I've had mine on the car for around 8 years. Never a problem. You don't hear of problems with ATI balancers. Use a BBC pulley and you are in business. If you go drilling the stock pulleys to fit they tend to crack and come apart. There are juist some things you don't want to cheap out on, the balancer being one of them.

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Old 10-31-2008, 01:50 AM
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Summit SFI Pro/Race Not to be Confused with PP POS, 230$ Very nice piece 4-bolt Bolt On No Mods, Splined hub and Ring, Very Nice Piece, Butler used one on their 467 EMC engine as well, FWIW

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One the ATI there is like 5 different models wit 2 or 3 rings and steel or Alum Shell, Which model are most of you using?

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Old 10-31-2008, 06:01 AM
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Fluidampr, one piece outer shell can't come apart. Running one in my car now for 3 years, put one on my new motor.
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SFI means it has to be good.

I would run a stock Pontiac before that POS. Take an ATI balancer apart. They are awesome.

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Old 10-31-2008, 09:06 AM
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Oh Sh!t!! I put one of those on my Dad's engine. When I was timing the distributor, the TDC mark wasn't even close, had to put a tape on timing mark!! Now what do I do?

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Old 10-31-2008, 09:13 AM
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I would get it off there asap Bill!!

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Old 10-31-2008, 09:25 AM
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i run stock dampers..thats what the cranktrain calls for..spun big rpms many times, no failures of cranks or hubs..sfi is just another ploy to take your money and control you...screw sfi in my book..

if aftermarket assembly, buy the best you can find..crank vibes hurt

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Summit SFI Pro/Race Not to be Confused with PP POS, 230$ Very nice piece 4-bolt Bolt On No Mods, Splined hub and Ring, Very Nice Piece, Butler used one on their 467 EMC engine as well, FWIW
I have one of those as well; it is holding up so far.

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I'd still box it up and ship it to SFI and ask how they could have certified this!

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Skip do u have a address? I would be willing to do so or atleast call them!

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