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Old 02-03-2009, 06:08 PM
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I'm in the upper mid-west.My car is in the SD registery and is a low option car,auto with 342 gears.Original paint,interior,and the motor's never been out of the car with only 48K for mile's.

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Old 02-03-2009, 10:20 PM
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....as much as i wanna pipe in,i'm just gonna keep my mouth shut....

btw,super duties are made by FORD aren't they????


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Have you ever gotten the curb weight on that '74 Formula?

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Old 02-04-2009, 07:12 AM
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Have you ever gotten the curb weight on that '74 Formula?
I personally have not had the car weighed,however I have a copy of the original invoice on the car and the Manufacture shows the Curb weight to be 3634.Again not sure how accuate that is,but I know it's lighter than a T/A.

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Ford also made an HO motor that they put in Mustangs,you know the 302!!!!!!

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Old 02-04-2009, 01:26 PM
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I'm in the upper mid-west.My car is in the SD registery and is a low option car,auto with 342 gears.Original paint,interior,and the motor's never been out of the car with only 48K for mile's.
smamans 71 ta(who has posted on here) ran his unrestored 50k ho at the pure stocks 2 years ago. 3.08, ac, original small exhaust, no power tune, 14.3 at 97. i think there's a 13.9 or better with power tune. bring that bad boy to stanten and we can set somthing up!!

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smamans 71 ta(who has posted on here) ran his unrestored 50k ho at the pure stocks 2 years ago. 3.08, ac, original small exhaust, no power tune, 14.3 at 97. i think there's a 13.9 or better with power tune. bring that bad boy to stanten and we can set somthing up!!
Read the article in HPP April 2005 page 17-19.What you'll be looking for is on page 19.And if you still want some bring your buddies bad boy here.....

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"Quote" I personally have not had the car weighed,however I have a copy of the original invoice on the car and the Manufacture shows the Curb weight to be 3634.Again not sure how accuate that is,but I know it's lighter than a T/A.

The shipping curb weights were usually done with only 3-4 gallons of gas, but sounds about right for a low option '74. IIRC, a '74 TA shipping weight was 3760 for a no option car. So 130 lbs lighter would mean, all other things being equal, about .13 quicker to the other end of a quarter.

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Old 02-04-2009, 05:41 PM
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Anytime you want to run your survivor 455HO against my survivor SD-455 Formula Let me know.And dont throw that pure stock crap out at me as those cars are not pure stock,they are running within guide line's that allow them variances thus being altered.I'm talking box stock show room new.There are'nt to many guy's out there with one that are willing to run them.And for the record I do own a 72 455HO GTO.
my point was there is someone with a real ho unrestored with the worst options for drag racing, unprepared, running close to 13's . and will race any time anywhere. i could care less what u did on page 19. a lot of mouth runnin gets settled at the pure stocks..we will be there.

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Old 02-04-2009, 11:23 PM
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my point was there is someone with a real ho unrestored with the worst options for drag racing, unprepared, running close to 13's . and will race any time anywhere. i could care less what u did on page 19. a lot of mouth runnin gets settled at the pure stocks..we will be there.
File this away in the FWIW file. I still have the timeslips from a couple of passes in my 71 TA, circa 1980, at Milan Dragway. Car description: 71 455 HO TA Automatic, no air, not many options, GR60x15 Radial TAs, stock exhaust, motor as built by PMD, but wait for it...2.41:1 axle! When I bought the car the axle bearings were wiped, so I picked up a junkyard 2.41 posi from a '75 TA.
Driver description: snot-nosed 19 year old that was no master at launch technique (although with a 2.41 axle it was pretty much stab and steer).

Best ET 14.66 @100! It went through the lights at 5000 rpm in 2nd gear.

Around the same time I had a buddy with a 74 SD Auto 3.08 car. We ran a couple times on the freeway from a 25 mph roll up to about 100 and they were basically dead even. His car was a little heavier with a/c and heavy bumpers, but also had the axle advantage. We both called it a draw.

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Just a tease here but my buddies 455 HO is built, dyno'd and ready to be picked up at some guys house by the name of Jensen I think . It's for a GTO, not a bird. I hear it is strong We are cleaning up the engine bay, underside, setting up rearend with new gear and replacing parts that need it and will be ready for some pure stock racing this year.
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How about some details on the performance? HP? Nice 455 HO 4 speed!!

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Well, I can not find the email with the exact dyno numbers but I can tease you with that it is north of what Mark W. said back several pages ago that a strong 455 HO motor makes and north of what a certain SD motor of Paul Aragona's that he built last year. His GTO is an auto car.
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Just a tease here but my buddies 455 HO is built, dyno'd and ready to be picked up at some guys house by the name of Jensen I think . It's for a GTO, not a bird. I hear it is strong We are cleaning up the engine bay, underside, setting up rearend with new gear and replacing parts that need it and will be ready for some pure stock racing this year.
Cool deal - keep us informed!

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Old 02-06-2009, 11:10 AM
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I will. What a great Pic for your Avatar !!!

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Jody,

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Right now we have a front fender off putting in a new blower motor (pain in the a$$), rearend out, interior out and doing some detailing on the underside and engine bay ect.. and Ron still has to pick up the motor in MI hopefully in the next few weeks. Our goal is to have it back together by the end of April running as we really only have time on the weekends with our jobs, kids, ect.. and I really only have time on Sundays to help. Then we have to go get the new exhaust put so if all goes well he wants to do some t&t in May to shake the car down for the Martin race in June. We have a track in Joliet which is only an hour away and she is a good one.

I am sure the car will run good but she is heavy and forgot to mention it has air conditioning. We hope to be in the 12 sec club. I see you are getting well into the 11's now. Nice. We plan on going to the Co-vention as well to run in the PS portion on that Friday. We may take the 68 Firebird as I am putting a 4.10 in and changing the muffler on it. We will see how things go.

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but I can tease you with that it is north of what Mark W. said back several pages ago that a strong 455 HO motor makes and north of what a certain SD motor of Paul Aragona's that he built last year.
I went back and looked to refresh my memory and Aragona's motor was making 534lbft at 3300 and 420hp at 5000 so it sounds like the new maxed out HO made in excess of 535lb.ft. of torque and 421hp? Would love to see the dyno sheet or know the numbers at various rpm to see how the whole curve looks. I'm continually amazed by how much power these relatively stock motors are putting out and at factory type rpm levels, congrats to you guys for pushing the limits on both these motors.

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Old 02-06-2009, 05:16 PM
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Right now we have a front fender off putting in a new blower motor (pain in the a$$), rearend out, interior out and doing some detailing on the underside and engine bay ect.. and Ron still has to pick up the motor in MI hopefully in the next few weeks. Our goal is to have it back together by the end of April running as we really only have time on the weekends with our jobs, kids, ect.. and I really only have time on Sundays to help. Then we have to go get the new exhaust put so if all goes well he wants to do some t&t in May to shake the car down for the Martin race in June. We have a track in Joliet which is only an hour away and she is a good one.

I am sure the car will run good but she is heavy and forgot to mention it has air conditioning. We hope to be in the 12 sec club. I see you are getting well into the 11's now. Nice. We plan on going to the Co-vention as well to run in the PS portion on that Friday. We may take the 68 Firebird as I am putting a 4.10 in and changing the muffler on it. We will see how things go.
Thanks Jody,

If all goes as planned I will see you friday at KilKare.

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ready to be picked up at some guys house by the name of Jensen I think .
That's funny! Motor looks great, can't wait to see how it runs!

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