[performerrpm]

goatman, give the hedman huslers a look, i put them on my 66 which sholdnt be any different than your 65. mine are 2inch primaries and the 8, 7 tubes run over the frame rail and thrue the inner fender back under the car and the 1 and 2 tubes run under neath the crossmember. ive never put on a set of hedders on that were easier. the only real work is you do have to cut a lil out of the fenderwell for them to run thrue. my car is a 4speed and i stil didnt have to massage the hedder to fit, probaly one of the few hedders you can buy ceramic coated and not have to ding it off with a hmmer and they are in slip fit pieces like sc mentions

[gtome]

Originally Posted by performerrpm

goatman, give the hedman huslers a look, i put them on my 66 which sholdnt be any different than your 65. mine are 2inch primaries and the 8, 7 tubes run over the frame rail and thrue the inner fender back under the car and the 1 and 2 tubes run under neath the crossmember. ive never put on a set of hedders on that were easier. the only real work is you do have to cut a lil out of the fenderwell for them to run thrue. my car is a 4speed and i stil didnt have to massage the hedder to fit, probaly one of the few hedders you can buy ceramic coated and not have to ding it off with a hmmer and they are in slip fit pieces like sc mentions

Got any pics of your setup?

[ta man]

For sure degree the cam my 9 way billet set from Summit has markings that are off,so if you misjudge the vague markings you can be off big time.Absolutley give SD a call they helped me pick up 10 mph on my car with a head and cam swap.

[performerrpm]

Originally Posted by gtome

Got any pics of your setup?

have a few at home on my other computer but not on this one, but there is one picture on my album in my profile that shows a little bit of the headers, enuf that you can see how they route thrue anyway

[lust4speed]

goatman65, I couldn't find what carburetor(s) and intake manifold you were running. I'm also wondering if your ignition isn't falling off after 4,900 RPM. Have you had the distributor checked?

[screamingchief]

IIRC he's running a tri-power intake & carbs.

Cant remember exactly which tri-power intake though,for some reason I wanna say it is one of the aluminum repo pieces.

But dont quote me on that fact.

I dunno if I would feel that the ignition would cause a low hp peak myself,fuel yeah maybe I could see that,seeing as an engines power output is based almost entirely on it's BSFC (brake specific fuel consumption),and if that tanks,the power typically goes with it.

But yeah,anything is possible really,so I would'nt let anything escape my scrutiny.

I kinda ponder if he was running it with some of those tiny trips air cleaners on there,and those maybe were a bit too restrictive or something???

I dunno,but I know there's an answer for sure.

There's more power lurking in that thing right now,I'm sure of it.

Bret P.

[SPEEDZONE]

An Idle more than this? Its not a Pontiac, but its my 74 Pantera....... Check Vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNn1u9EDLEI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ECF59WNZqA

[goatman65]

Originally Posted by lust4speed

goatman65, I couldn't find what carburetor(s) and intake manifold you were running. I'm also wondering if your ignition isn't falling off after 4,900 RPM. Have you had the distributor checked?

Yes i'm running a 66 repro alum.intake.I sent it to Jim at CVMS and he ported it along with enlarging the throttle bores of the end carbs.He said it flows 'similar' to the intake on Rick Hollidays GTO.The ctr. carb is a circle track carb by Jet.It flows 500 cfm.
Ignition consists of an MSD6,Blaster 2 coil and the dist was rebuilt/recurved by Larry Rowe for this engine.I did replace the points with a Crane xri unit because i wanted the rev-limiter.Larry did say the points would be just as good if not better than the Crane unit.Intial timing is 16,36 total @2500.

[goatman65]

Originally Posted by lust4speed

The first roll was just to center the car up on the rollers since the car came in a little off center.

I wonder if the two-roller dyno unit had anything to do with torque being down compared to horsepower? The old Clayton dyno's had a hard time with wheel spin due to the small rollers and it wasn't unusual to have three guys sitting in the trunk during the run to provide extra traction. Could you post the results?

Dyno sheet

[lust4speed]

Only thing I dislike about the Crane XRi unit is that little potentiometer to set the RPM limit. With my eyes 6,000, 6,200, and 6,400 all look about the same when eyeballing it. Other than that, it has been a reliable unit with no problems in the 10,000+ or so miles it has been on the 2+2.

The chart looks like the results of a smaller cam. Torque peak at 3,200 RPM doesn't sound right, and I would vote that the cam is really advanced.

[goatman65]

Yeah,i have to use a magnifying glass to set the limiter.Guess it's time to learn how to degree my cam.

[67 Lamnas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly5IlDyXFbo

[goatman65]

I like.Is that the 'Road paver' cam?