[JKrull66]

Originally Posted by Apache Warrior

Tom, I am using Hooker Super Comp 2" headers for 68-72 A Body cars.

A little massaging but they fit pretty nicely.......they are a pain to work around however.

Installing the engine the first go around was painful....I learned I should NOT have used header studs, the oil filter housing MUST to go on after the engine is installed and the headers are on, and it's MUCH easier to put the bellhousing on last after everthing else is installed. And then the fun part - I get to install the clutch linkage - VERY tight set up but was nicely fabbed by Kal Schultz.

I don't have any pictures of the headers on with the engine installed. I will get a few of those between the holidays and post them here for everyone to see.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

You Know what #, I may have to go to 2" with my 535. Is it #4201#
John

[R 70 Judge]

So has anyone else had any luck with these 4201 SC headers?

[spartazoo]

I am pretty sure that is what is on my car. You have to "massage" the passenger side frame rail and grind one little spot on the back of the engine crossmember, other than that they actually fit pretty well.

I will check and see if those are the ones I used.

Kip

[REEDRACER]

Did Apache Warrior ever get the car to the track?

[afx421]

is the car tubbed? i dont want to tub mine, if not tubbed, what size is the rear? drum to drum, what size tires wheel back spacing.

[spartazoo]

Originally Posted by afx421

is the car tubbed? i dont want to tub mine, if not tubbed, what size is the rear? drum to drum, what size tires wheel back spacing.

Here is what I did...

I put the car up on jack stands and dropped the rear transaxle out of the car. the first thing I bought was the rims and tires that I wanted to use. I set them under the car in position and then measured the distance between the rims. I gave that dimension to the guys building my rear-end and the rest is history.

Everything lined up great when everything came together during assembly.

Kip

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by afx421

is the car tubbed? i dont want to tub mine, if not tubbed, what size is the rear? drum to drum, what size tires wheel back spacing.

A '57 Pontiac big car rear is just about the perfect width. I think it's 58" - 59" IIRC. Tom S. has one under his '63 Tempest.

If you want a 9" the Ford 77-81 Granada/Versailles is 58" and from what I've heard here it's pretty close to perfect. Again, it all depends on the wheel width and offset used too.

I have a 28"x12.50" Mickey Thompson ET Street on a 15"x8" Mickey Thompson ET Drag wheel under mine and it's pretty close, but it fits.

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by spartazoo

Here is what I did...

I put the car up on jack stands and dropped the rear transaxle out of the car. the first thing I bought was the rims and tires that I wanted to use. I set them under the car in position and then measured the distance between the rims. I gave that dimension to the guys building my rear-end and the rest is history.

Everything lined up great when everything came together during assembly.

Kip

This is the way to do it

[Poncho_Villa]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

This is the way to do it

Agreed! It is so simple and effective, it's almost like cheating!

This might be a very old thread, but a good one!

[beemergary]

I did like spartazoo. Got 275/50/15s under the 63. Put the tires and wheels under the car with your ride height and do the measuring. Don't forget the thickness of the brake drums also. Ford 9 inch aren't on center so if getting axles made there's two different lenghts. I didn't relize when having axles made you can specify wheel hole pattern. I got tempest front ford back and one spare which only fits the front. Didn't make this mistake when doing the 61 wagon.

[spartazoo]

I had my axles made with 4.5 x 5 bolt pattern to match the front. I also have an extra pair of 15x8 plain steel wheels that the company I ordered from made by mistake. They are just begging for installation on a 63 Catalina SD clone...Born Too Late II? Hummm

[grparen]

Spartazoo:
My '63 Tempest has 4.5 X 5 up front and 5 X 5 big Pontiac in the rear. However, the 9.5 inch dog dish caps I want to use won't fit on any 5 X 5 wheels. Only 10 1/8 caps fit. Where can I get my axles converted to 4.5 or buy new axles with 4.5 wheel bolt pattern?

BTW, the wheels you had made. They are 4.5 X 5 on 15 X 8? What is the backspace? I may be interested.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by beemergary

I did like spartazoo. Got 275/50/15s under the 63. Put the tires and wheels under the car with your ride height and do the measuring. Don't forget the thickness of the brake drums also. Ford 9 inch aren't on center so if getting axles made there's two different lenghts. I didn't relize when having axles made you can specify wheel hole pattern. I got tempest front ford back and one spare which only fits the front. Didn't make this mistake when doing the 61 wagon.

Gary - if you ever get a flat just call me and I'll come gitcha'.

K

[twinturrbo406]

...... so what is the latest on this car ?? ........