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Old 02-28-2014, 06:53 PM
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The intercoolers and the heat exchanger were E-Bay items. The Mini radiator was E-Bay also. I do a lot of E-bay. Most of it is good working/workable stuff.

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Old 03-13-2014, 04:12 PM
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Got the exhaust all tacked up and run. I have to shorten the outlet but I can't get it in my cut off saw at the angle I want. OR--should I just leave it the way it is???? OVERKILL!!!! Ha!!!!



Here I have one of the scoop/hat inlets cut to length and the aluminum V-clamp flanges in place. Just have to get them welded permanently in position. The 3 inch stub will weld right to the scoop. Here just one is done, the other is done but I did not take a pic. The straight black silicone connectors will be gone as I will have the junction under them welded.


Taking everything in Monday to get the welding finished.

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Old 03-13-2014, 10:36 PM
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Mark... Chop saw cant do everything lol... But a long sawz-all blade can get that pipe cut nice if you take some precaution... Wrap it with masking tape where you plan to cut... a little padding on the sawz-all guide will help keep things pretty too.

Hard to find the long metal specific blades but the long "demolition" type blades dont seem to get phased by most metal... You can get a fairly clean cut if you dont force it.

Also, a cut off wheel in a angle die grinder can cut that nice n clean... tape it up mark your cut line and work slow... be safe, work safe too...

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Old 03-14-2014, 01:32 AM
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Hey Bruce. Didn't think of my Sawz-all but it is an alternative. I have some cut off Stainless 4 inch pipe yet I can test it on. It's out there for all to see so I want a nice clean straight cut. My new (old used) band saw and new blades do not want to cut the stainless. However, it does seem to be running to fast for this cut. Maybe try slowing down the saw speed and see if that helps. It seemed as thought it was tying to melt the stainless instead of getting a bite and cutting. My old horizontal saw was slower and it seemed I could cut anything on it, as long as I could fit it in the limited opening.

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Old 03-14-2014, 10:52 AM
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Looking "prudy" Mark..
Not being a turbo guy....are mufflers required for street driving.....or does turbos quiet it down..?

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Old 03-14-2014, 11:41 AM
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It's all in the eye (ear) of the beholder (Police). When I first got down here and drove my TA around I had a 4 inch electric cut out exhaust valve that dumped it right out of the passenger fender. The main exhaust split for the 5 inch (out of the turbo) to dual 3 inch and spin tech mufflers. The exhaust then went out over the axle and out the back. Even though the dump was open right outside the passenger window, there was very little difference in sound level when I opened or closed the valve. After that I never closed it. The only difference was the wastegate exhaust. The outlet for the wastegate went back into the exhaust system right before the open dump. Because it is straight out of the header pipe before the turbo it is louder when the wastegate opens, and you could hear it pretty well with the open dump valve. But under normal driving and even an inspection you would never hear it. My Cats wasetgates (50MM each) are in the 180 pipe right out of the header collector--


and it will dump out of its own 2 inch pipe. No matter where I tie into the short open exhaust outlet it will probably be a little loud, but only under boost again. If I run a full exhaust later I can run it back into the full system.

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Alrightie then Mark
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OK hot side and cold side piping all done and welded. Brackets for the ends of the dump pipes are the only thing left there.





Blow off valves in place too. All ready for the intercooler lines to run and installing the Mini radiator.

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Very cool . That's sick !!!! Good luck with it

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I'm looking forward to seeing it in person at Pontiac Heaven.

Two weeks from tomorrow we load up and head for Phoenix.

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I'm looking forward to seeing it in person at Pontiac Heaven.

Two weeks from tomorrow we load up and head for Phoenix.

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Would love to come over for Pontiac Heaven...and Viva Las Vegas... Maybe next year.
Need to renew my passport.

Hope you guys put plenty of pics up of the event.

Car is looking HOT mark!!!

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I know. It's almost here. Seems like it should be months away. Jim I assume you are bringing the '60? What about the Tempest? If not ready to race how about for looks???

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I feel left out around you boosted gents

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I know. It's almost here. Seems like it should be months away. Jim I assume you are bringing the '60? What about the Tempest? If not ready to race how about for looks???

Mark
We've only put about 100 miles on the Catalina so far, so I'm not comfortable driving it up and back. We'll be trailering it to put in the show and make a few passes down the strip to see how it handles at high speed. I was tempted to make two trips and bring the Tempest, too, but I decided to concentrate on the Catalina. Ellen wants to learn to race the Catalina, make burnouts, etc. so we'll get a start on that.

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Old 03-21-2014, 02:20 AM
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Come on over Troy and we'll put you on a "BOOST"( not the old peoples drink--yet, LOL) plan. You never realize how addictive it is until you dabble in it. But like any addiction, it'll hurt you if you let it take you away.

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Mark, Naturally I am following this build...to this point everything looks like it was done right the first time (not surprising, knowing your experience and attention to the details), but are there any bloopers or "aw-sh!t, I shouldda's" you can share ?

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Hey Matt, thanks for looking in on me. Oh-Shyte moments galore. Every time I made a concept change, like from a single turbo to twins, "oh crap why'd I do that". Several times while cutting material and seeing it in my head first. Then trying to apply it to the saw or band saw in the right direction to get the correct cut etc. But over all it's gone pretty smooth. I think Janet's had more OH SHYTE moments than me, when she sees parts coming in. She thinks we have our own Brown delivery truck, LOL. Even my old mail man was a car guy and would stop and shoot the bull with me. He is now on a different route but still drops in after shifts to see what I'm doing.

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Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!!!!

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I'm getting the car ready for the Pontiac heaven show this weekend. Assembling and mocking up everything just to tie up loose ends. Mocked up the Hilborn fuel pump system. Waiting for two fittings for the intercoolers and will be able to mock those up with AN fittings and plain old rubber hose. The little Mini radiator I'm using for the intercooler heat exchanger is getting bungs welded on and I should have that back tomorrow. I can finish mocking up the lines from it, through the pump and to the intercoolers.
Pic of the Hilborn fuel system.



I've been hunting for a '63 Grand Prix canter dash unit that hold the three factory gauges. Being pretty popular additions to standard dashes and are priced accordingly. Found one at Sundays swap for much-much less than the going rate. As you can see I jumped on it.



I decided to make an easel sign for the Catalina to cover some of the stuff done to and put into it. I think this is going to be the official name of the car.



The sign sure as heck ain't pretty but it does reflect the look of the owner. LOL---wait a minute, what are you all laughing at?????

Then I can install all of the front sheet metal to the tilt assembly. I'm not going to add the hood yet and am still not sure if I will later. If I ever get to the dragstrip I may be forced to run it. In that instance though it may be better to have it on. I still have to map it out and cut out the shape around the scoop/inlet piping and possibly the BOVs.

Don't worry though. I will NOT be doing the lettering on the car.

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