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Old 08-27-2010, 07:33 PM
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You mean like a Judge spoiler? I intend on putting one on my '68. Not correct in any sense of the word but I kinda like how it "finishes off" that area there. I don't know why but on the '68-72 hardtops I just don't like the back end there. Feels like it is missing something, but that's a preference thing IMO. Maybe it's just me. Or maybe it is to make it look more like a Pontiac rather than anything else. Chevelles I don't think ever had spoilers and I see Chevelles all over the place at shows.

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Old 08-27-2010, 11:53 PM
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Old 08-28-2010, 11:37 AM
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Actually, I will be using my 62 heads that have been completely redone, port & polished, bronze buides, SS valves etc. So the 62's will be a give away, I will also be using H.O. 2.5" manifolds from R.A.R.E. along with a 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust system. But I will keep the 326 air cleaner, painted valve covers etc.
It still won't look "stock" anymore!

As far as the "vocal, anally correct vintage experts that used to own one just like it" at the car shows are concerned, at this point, you might as well install yellow plug wires, fake braided fuel lines with the anodized clamp covers and clear glass fuel filter, Mr. Gasket air cleaner (complete with the obligatory "326-4V" sticker), MSD box (not connected to anything) on the firewall, finned valve covers, 22" rims, flames, Blackjack headers, cherry bombs, air shocks, Custom Autosound radio (with speakers in the door and 6x9s ON the hat shelf!), a gauge pod from Advance Auto, chrome oil filter (Fram, of course!)/alternator/water neck/dipstick, fuzzy dice, GTO hood, disc brakes, rear sway bar, etc. etc. etc.

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Old 08-28-2010, 11:47 AM
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It's all about the "look". Using OEM/stock/Pontiac parts is the key, nothing aftermarket for me under the hood. I like performance and or safety upgrades/mods but keeping them hidden is the challenge/fun of it all for me.

I could grind the "62"'s off the heads an no one would ever know. I just might do that in fact. I even have an NOS set of date coded plug wires (2nd quarter 67). She will look plain jane, bone stock but when the light changes it's over.

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It still won't look "stock" anymore!

As far as the "vocal, anally correct vintage experts that used to own one just like it" at the car shows are concerned, at this point, you might as well install yellow plug wires, fake braided fuel lines with the anodized clamp covers and clear glass fuel filter, Mr. Gasket air cleaner (complete with the obligatory "326-4V" sticker), MSD box (not connected to anything) on the firewall, finned valve covers, 22" rims, flames, Blackjack headers, cherry bombs, air shocks, Custom Autosound radio (with speakers in the door and 6x9s ON the hat shelf!), a gauge pod from Advance Auto, chrome oil filter (Fram, of course!)/alternator/water neck/dipstick, fuzzy dice, GTO hood, disc brakes, rear sway bar, etc. etc. etc.
Wow, you nailed them all in one shot! LOL

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Old 08-28-2010, 01:01 PM
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It's all about the "look". Using OEM/stock/Pontiac parts is the key, nothing aftermarket for me under the hood. I like performance and or safety upgrades/mods but keeping them hidden is the challenge/fun of it all for me.

I could grind the "62"'s off the heads an no one would ever know. I just might do that in fact. I even have an NOS set of date coded plug wires (2nd quarter 67). She will look plain jane, bone stock but when the light changes it's over.
That was me, to a T, 10 years ago. Even down to the same exhaust setup (RA manifolds, 2.5" mandrel bent pipes. Lemme guess, Dynomax Super Turbos?).

Then it became a matter of more power, more better, might as well, trying to feed 462 cid @ 6000 rpms through a stock tripower intake, with stock fuel pump and 1/4" lines, then trying to squeeze that exhaust through the RA manifolds and little 2.5" pipes etc., and it's been downhill ever since.

Nowadays, I am happy if it's running well and just ignore the car show experts. Heck, I'd rather go to the track or just cruise around than go to car shows any more.

BTW, you have a killer LeMans there......... My favorite color too!

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Old 08-28-2010, 01:13 PM
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LOL yeap, sounds familiar. Well, for me it's about as much power as possible while keeping the stock look. I don't know what it is about it, but I love the clean as it should be look. I thrive on the engine compartment compliments more than anything else. I think it's because it is difficult challenge and something you seldom see. I know the overwhelming majority of Pontiacs I see have anything but a stock appearing engine compartment.

I know when we still had our 68 Firebird, I received more compliments on the non-numbers matching 400 with RamAir pans and a 100% bones stock/ accurate look under the hood than anything else. It's tough to find all the right brackets, clamps, hoses, stickers, TVS & hoses, colors of parts etc. and it's very easy to walk into any parts store and pull carbs, intakes, chrome brackets etc. off the shelf and bolt them on.

So for me, it's more about the challenge than anything. To have a known Pontiac enthusiest look under the hood and say "damn, you have just about nailed this 100%" is worth all the effort.

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Old 08-28-2010, 01:40 PM
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i agree with the pt cruiser statement. no pt cruiser should be at any car show. when my vette was in the shop, the rental company said they had ford, gm, and pt cruisers. i said 'anything but the pt cruiser'. then they gave me an hhr.

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LOL yeap, sounds familiar. Well, for me it's about as much power as possible while keeping the stock look. I don't know what it is about it, but I love the clean as it should be look. I thrive on the engine compartment compliments more than anything else. I think it's because it is difficult challenge and something you seldom see. I know the overwhelming majority of Pontiacs I see have anything but a stock appearing engine compartment.

I know when we still had our 68 Firebird, I received more compliments on the non-numbers matching 400 with RamAir pans and a 100% bones stock/ accurate look under the hood than anything else. It's tough to find all the right brackets, clamps, hoses, stickers, TVS & hoses, colors of parts etc. and it's very easy to walk into any parts store and pull carbs, intakes, chrome brackets etc. off the shelf and bolt them on.

So for me, it's more about the challenge than anything. To have a known Pontiac enthusiest look under the hood and say "damn, you have just about nailed this 100%" is worth all the effort.

I hear you..... That's exactly what I wanted too. At some point I ceased to care. You're starting off with a much better "canvas" than I had. My car needed EVERYTHING, and at some point, I had to prioritize and bone stock looks finally succumbed to getting it done.

Every so often, I get the itch to go total stealth again, and might at some point (mine is not that far off), but not at the expense of power or driveability. Other than the dash, unless I open the hood, most folks think mine is a sedate, stock convertible. Some folks can't even tell WITH the hood open.

FWIW, There is very little in a parts store that will even bolt onto a Pontiac anymore!

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Old 08-28-2010, 03:03 PM
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i agree with the pt cruiser statement. no pt cruiser should be at any car show. when my vette was in the shop, the rental company said they had ford, gm, and pt cruisers. i said 'anything but the pt cruiser'. then they gave me an hhr.
That made me laugh....HHR

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Old 08-29-2010, 12:29 AM
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I know they have been covered, and not exactly what you meant, but this one was at a car show recently. It was sitting among some very high dollar restorations.

It wasnt even finished nicely, just a set of wheels and tires. Check out the PERGO FLOORING! Lol...

The owner claimed he had an offer to sell for $28k which isnt bad in this economy. Figures.






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Old 08-29-2010, 12:44 AM
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Pergo in a musclecar 4X4 is my new pet peeve!

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That poor 68 Chevy is sooooo lame, I don't know where to start....

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I know they have been covered, and not exactly what you meant, but this one was at a car show recently. It was sitting among some very high dollar restorations.

It wasnt even finished nicely, just a set of wheels and tires. Check out the PERGO FLOORING! Lol...

The owner claimed he had an offer to sell for $28k which isnt bad in this economy. Figures.





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Thats a winner!
It would be hard to top that abomination in this thread.
Especially set at a car show.
What the organizers must have thought when it rolled up to the registration table.

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....people that go around and nitpick other cars
Point at gaps that are bad, or wrong resto parts, etc etc
They don't seem to realize that not every car is a show car.



Or people that criticize other cars at a show and don't have their own car

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X2 That's burns my azz
Maybe he was trying to slow it down, or decrease it's value!!???

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They don't seem to realize that not every car is a show car.


Yeah, but I bet most people think, "Well this is a car show, every car should look like a show car, otherwise why would it be here?"

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The owner claimed he had an offer to sell for $28k which isnt bad in this economy. Figures.
He probably got that confused with an offer to set it on fire. Man, that interior looks like it was made from a set of Lego Blocks and Lincoln Logs.

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You mean like a Judge spoiler? I intend on putting one on my '68. Not correct in any sense of the word but I kinda like how it "finishes off" that area there. I don't know why but on the '68-72 hardtops I just don't like the back end there. Feels like it is missing something, but that's a preference thing IMO. Maybe it's just me. Or maybe it is to make it look more like a Pontiac rather than anything else. Chevelles I don't think ever had spoilers and I see Chevelles all over the place at shows.
That's why I put a Judge spoiler on my 69 GTO. Looks right, IMHO. The car is burgundy with the spoiler the smae color. But yeah, it doesn't fit right at one of the quarters. I heard they improved the design so there's little, if any, work necessary to make them right.

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