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Old 10-24-2010, 09:47 PM
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if i had 400 cfm heads and a f3r, i know i could make 1700 to the ground. Would be an easy 4.70-4.80 ride at 3500 lbs.
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Way to go Robin - congrats on your awesome performance!

Oh, and Gach.......while the CV-1's may be fine heads, they didn't just pick up three tenths on their own, after being on the car all season. It's all in the tuning and Robin is a tuner.

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turbos are neat, and great qualifyers but always seem to choke on the line. The blower and nitrous guys win everything around here.

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That would be on an easy tune-up! haha


are you implying that it couldnt be done? We have a 580 chevy with out of the box dart heads and a single victor intake with a csu dommy blow thru and we have made 1700+ to the tires, and on a relativaly easy tune up.

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No, i'm implying that would be with an easy tune up...
And I bet with your chevy motor it would make more power if you took some stroke away from it...

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Congrats to Robin and Crew. That SoB hauls!!!

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Thank you for the support!

I will answer some questions: The car has not been apart or changed in any great manner in 2 years. This combo made more power, the setup in the car could not take it! At first I needed to get the ancillary parts right (converter, gears, carb, etc.) then go to work on the tweaks (nitrous ratios, shock settings, chassis settings, etc.) and this engine now has over 60 trouble free passes. The last year of tuning I have not changed a nitrous jet. I have added a Digital 7, Sportsman Racepak and the like to help understand the car. Sorry fellas, the only video I have from Saturday night is of my rear tires where I learned how to make it 1.23 to the 60 without wheelstanding. A ton of hard work and new knowledge, very little hardware!! In fact, no engine hardware. So many have contributed to that knowledge I would need a page just to thank everyone but the shortlist includes Bill Anderson, Jim Roland, Kelly Blubaugh and Langer.

The D.A. was 2,400! Put me at sea level on a cool East Coast night and we have a solid 7! Understand I did not remove or disable a single part that was on it when I spent 3 hours cruising Central the week before or had on it at Norwalk: Big fans, 100A alternator.......

I feel proud that it is a Pontiac kicking "their" collective tails but I am most proud that it is a REAL street car whacking real race cars in classes calling for but not mandating street cars! A topic for a different day......

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Old 10-25-2010, 08:58 AM
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No, i'm implying that would be with an easy tune up...
And I bet with your chevy motor it would make more power if you took some stroke away from it...
yeah we think so as well. We have talked about changing it this winter, but its really hard to pull apart a motor that is running great haha.

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Do'n it a way most would say "cant make that kind power and live".
Got'a love it.

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Again great job Robin.
You are a great inspiration to those of us who like to drive our cars and race them. Having raced my street cars frequently and a 40 mile drive one way to do so was always fun.(nowhere close to your level) Only once in 3 seasons, same car/combo, racing most every weekend, did I come home on a trailer.(My starter fried/seized could happen to a tow rig too, my friends "street" car came off his trailer, mine went on, I paid his gas. He was worried if his "street" car was up to a 40 mile trip home.)

Agree beating the "race" cars was quite satisfying. Was a guy always crabbin "get those *#%& street cars out of here". I especially enjoyed treeing him and running my number the day we got lined up. I never got any static from him again.

To me its a pride thing, building for durability, maintaining it, and proving it. Intend to drive and race my turbo project too. Drive it anywhere race it anywhere.
IMO turbo or N2O are the most flexible way to dedicated race car power and retain driveability.

To me NA or power adder its durability that counts most. If you cant repeat, how good is just a power level you obtain.

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Congrats Robin you are the man to beat!

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8.13 is fast on ANY street car that can be driven an actual 30+ miles.

Again, Congratulations on the pass.

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8.13 is fast on ANY street car that can be driven an actual 30+ miles.

Again, Congratulations on the pass.

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Totally agree!

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Thank you for the support!

I will answer some questions: The car has not been apart or changed in any great manner in 2 years. This combo made more power, the setup in the car could not take it! At first I needed to get the ancillary parts right (converter, gears, carb, etc.) then go to work on the tweaks (nitrous ratios, shock settings, chassis settings, etc.) and this engine now has over 60 trouble free passes. The last year of tuning I have not changed a nitrous jet. I have added a Digital 7, Sportsman Racepak and the like to help understand the car. Sorry fellas, the only video I have from Saturday night is of my rear tires where I learned how to make it 1.23 to the 60 without wheelstanding. A ton of hard work and new knowledge, very little hardware!! In fact, no engine hardware. So many have contributed to that knowledge I would need a page just to thank everyone but the shortlist includes Bill Anderson, Jim Roland, Kelly Blubaugh and Langer.

The D.A. was 2,400! Put me at sea level on a cool East Coast night and we have a solid 7! Understand I did not remove or disable a single part that was on it when I spent 3 hours cruising Central the week before or had on it at Norwalk: Big fans, 100A alternator.......

I feel proud that it is a Pontiac kicking "their" collective tails but I am most proud that it is a REAL street car whacking real race cars in classes calling for but not mandating street cars! A topic for a different day......

Keep the Faith!!!
........ thanks Robin, very kind words, but, make no bones about it, i've learned a ton from Robin, on many levels. Mr.Robin actually told us the car was gonna run a "Teen" before he went to the event, and this is not the first time he's done that, the point is, he is super smart, and knows that car top to bottom. Now if i can just get him to give me some Lotto numbers ???

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Congrats Robin you are the man to beat!
Coming from you that is a huge compliment!

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I just watched the video's on Youtube. Good grief that is awesome! Great Job!

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Thank you for the support!

I will answer some questions: The car has not been apart or changed in any great manner in 2 years. This combo made more power, the setup in the car could not take it! At first I needed to get the ancillary parts right (converter, gears, carb, etc.) then go to work on the tweaks (nitrous ratios, shock settings, chassis settings, etc.) and this engine now has over 60 trouble free passes. The last year of tuning I have not changed a nitrous jet. I have added a Digital 7, Sportsman Racepak and the like to help understand the car. Sorry fellas, the only video I have from Saturday night is of my rear tires where I learned how to make it 1.23 to the 60 without wheelstanding. A ton of hard work and new knowledge, very little hardware!! In fact, no engine hardware. So many have contributed to that knowledge I would need a page just to thank everyone but the shortlist includes Bill Anderson, Jim Roland, Kelly Blubaugh and Langer.

The D.A. was 2,400! Put me at sea level on a cool East Coast night and we have a solid 7! Understand I did not remove or disable a single part that was on it when I spent 3 hours cruising Central the week before or had on it at Norwalk: Big fans, 100A alternator.......

I feel proud that it is a Pontiac kicking "their" collective tails but I am most proud that it is a REAL street car whacking real race cars in classes calling for but not mandating street cars! A topic for a different day......

Keep the Faith!!!
Robin, Job well done by you and your entire crew. I know that you guys strugled at norwalk this year. If you all would like to come back out to norwalk in august. You guys can get the same race we offered you this year. Heads up. Matched weight and same tire size. If you all want to go for a 20 mile ride ,we can do that too. I would like to run for at least $2500.00 Its good to see people pushing the limits of a pontiac. Best reguards, EPC MOTORSPORTS. Again, Congradulations. Jack

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robin was this on pump gas?

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Way to go Robin - congrats on your awesome performance!

Oh, and Gach.......while the CV-1's may be fine heads, they didn't just pick up three tenths on their own, after being on the car all season. It's all in the tuning and Robin is a tuner.
LOL... you are one of my Norwalk lessons! Your car is the most beautiful race car i have ever seen. Touring your trailer and seeing how you had every detail in place, then watching you bracket race a nitrous car in the 7's made me feel like a nimrod. My laptop quit, didn't have a handle on the shocks, went 2000 miles without valve cover gaskets.... I got back and told Justin about you, Langer and Hedrick and how we had to professionalize our "stuff" to be like you. But we are broke so we gotta do it on the cheap!! We built charts, spare racks, wrote nitrous equations for our new jet packs, put together a spare laptop, marked and bundled all the cables, rewired some of the car (more to go), etc..

I had to take a couple years off and I needed a jumpstart to get my brain tracking again. I had learned all there was to go 8.50's easy. You guys put me on track to unlearn bad habits and get my mind right!

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