[njsteve]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

Those are actually the licensed Spanish version of the Messerschmitt Bf-109, the upright, Spanish manufactured 'Hispano-Suisa' engine being the primary difference. These are the type seen in most every WWII movie you see as the original German built planes are extremely rare in flying condition. Spain produced their version even after the war and I'll bet you that the 'warehouse' pic above is from some Hollywood backlot or at least of a group of planes used in some film like 'The Battle of Britain' which was released some time in the 1960s.

They are the actual planes used in the Battle of Britian movie. Dozens of them including Spitfires, too. It was in the news a couple weeks ago about the former stuntpilot who flew most of the planes in the combat scenes for the movie. He took them all in as his payment for the project. He knew that waiting on his pay from the "profits" of a film was very risky so he told the producers that he would take the planes instead. He is a millionaire Texas oil man and is retired. He is selling the entire fleet as one lot - no haggling, no bargaining. Sadly, he was going to give them to his stuntpilot son but the son recently died in a car accident and now he has no one to give them to, other his grandchildren and great grandchildren.

(From the link it appears that the lot was sold to a buyer who is now offering two of the planes for sale on that broker's site http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!ha-1112-m1l/c12zi )

[Greg Reid]

Wow. Incredible story. I just guessed because I could not think of another reason so many of those Spanish 109s would be in one spot. That was a great movie by the way and worth watching if for no more reason than the beautiful color flying scenes of Spits, Hurris, He-111s and these 109s. I re-watched it a couple of years ago and it must have been restored. The visuals are great.

[U47]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

Wow. Incredible story. I just guessed because I could not think of another reason so many of those Spanish 109s would be in one spot. That was a great movie by the way and worth watching if for no more reason than the beautiful color flying scenes of Spits, Hurris He-111s and these 109s. I re-watched it a couple of years ago and it must have been restored. The visuals are great.

Just a FYI on the Spanish planes. The last ones produced were in 1957. Another great production was the series " PIECE of Cake". Was shown in the states on PBS in 1988. Series starts in France, then moved to the Battle of Britain after the Germans pushed the English and French into the channel. Great story of Hornet squadron which was made up of English, French Americans, Canadians, Poles. Worth seeing.
PIECE OF CAKE Hornet Squadron in Action.wmv - YouTube




Video for piece of cake pbs▶ 5:34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7pDoBSrKg

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by U47

Just a FYI on the Spanish planes. The last ones produced were in 1957. Another great production was the series " PIECE of Cake". Was shown in the states on PBS in 1988. Series starts in France, then moved to the Battle of Britain after the Germans pushed the English and French into the channel. Great story of Hornet squadron which was made up of English, French Americans, Canadians, Poles. Worth seeing.
PIECE OF CAKE Hornet Squadron in Action.wmv - YouTube




Video for piece of cake pbs▶ 5:34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7pDoBSrKg

U47, don't know how I missed that one...never heard of it. Looks very interesting. I don't think there are many machines of any kind that are any more beautiful than a Spitfire in flight. A masterful example of aesthetics meeting functionality.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

Wow. Incredible story. I just guessed because I could not think of another reason so many of those Spanish 109s would be in one spot. That was a great movie by the way and worth watching if for no more reason than the beautiful color flying scenes of Spits, Hurris, He-111s and these 109s. I re-watched it a couple of years ago and it must have been restored. The visuals are great.

http://play.moviehdv.com/play.php?movie=0064072

"In 1940, the Royal Air Force fights a desperate battle against the might of the Luftwaffe for control of the skies over Britain, thus preventing the Na(z)i invasion of Britain."

[Alvin]

http://youtu.be/ZqPdSpezHhg

[Alvin]

[Alvin]

[Greg Reid]

Your baiting me now Alvin...I almost never get tired of WWII aircraft discussions but I'm gonna quit for now...

[dataway]

Screw Wheelhorse ... Cub Cadet all the way

Don't get me started, I had "Yellow Fever" for years

[dataway]

And ... they were made of wood.

[OVERULD]

I loved "633 Squardon" so much, I went out and bought a plastic Mosquito model kit at the local hobby shop and built my own. They were beautiful planes!

BJ

[Greg Reid]

I was heavily involved with R/C scale planes 15~18 years or so and the Mosquito was definitely one that was on my list of 'want to build' planes. Especially, since the full-scale plane was wood too. You have to be really sure of your engines with a twin though. An engine out situation is a real challenge with remote control planes.

[U47]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

I was heavily involved with R/C scale planes 15~18 years or so and the Mosquito was definitely one that was on my list of 'want to build' planes. Especially, since the full-scale plane was wood too. You have to be really sure of your engines with a twin though. An engine out situation is a real challenge with remote control planes.

You might like this Greg, a little faster than a Mosquito and was operational before the war. We could have used them on Dec.7. After watching the video it becomes apparent that after tweaking with settings this plane could have done the long range duty of the P51 over Europe. With turbochargers it has a 44,000 ft. service ceiling which is equal to mustang. and a top speed depending on models from 414 mpg to 435mph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCapVFcVR1o

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by U47

Most Lethal Combat Fighter Plane - Lockheed P-38 ...




Video for Most Lethal Combat Fighter Plane - Lockheed P-38 Lightning Documentary - Military Channel▶ 44:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCapVFcVR1o

Yep, the P-38 was on my 'twin' list...as was the F7F, and the stripped down B-25 with the nose bubble replaced by .50 cals... So many planes, so little time....lol. The P-38 is a little more complex to build though. Those twin booms add up to a lot of measuring twice cutting once.
Of course, when electrics got so popular in the hobby, it made twins much more manageable from an R/C modelers standpoint...but I'm kind of out of the hobby now.

[MikeNoun]

One of the most unusual aircraft of WWII, the Dornier Do335. It was capable of speeds of 470 mph, making it the fastest piston engined plane of the war.



And a really cool, large scale R/C version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZU03dmdFBc

Mike

[U47]

Originally Posted by MikeNoun

One of the most unusual aircraft of WWII, the Dornier Do335. It was capable of speeds of 470 mph, making it the fastest piston engined plane of the war.



And a really cool, large scale R/C version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZU03dmdFBc

Mike

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Those are P-51 Mustangs before they became Mustangs as we know them. It was known as the A-36 Apache at the time and was mostly a ground attack plane.
It had the same Allison V-12 engine as the P-40 in the earlier picture.
The soon-to-be marriage of this American built and designed airframe with the British built and designed Rolls Royce-Merlin engine made it into arguably the best all around prop driven warplane in history..
P-51-B and -D models shown below... Notice that the intake scoop has moved from above to below the spinner with the engine change.



Arguably for sure. I would rather be in a F4U or if I wanted to go really fast a DO335. CLICK ON THE LINK

http://www.militaryimages.net/media/...-wp.30272/full

[Greg Reid]

How about this one for unusual?

[Hunter98TA]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

How about this one for unusual?

looks like the airplane version of a "Ratrod"!!

[U47]

Or this p51 variant;
https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircra...tang-title.jpg
http://www.aopa.org/-/media/Images/A...480&h=320&as=1