[wytnyt]

Originally Posted by ponjohn

I like to break the law and drive 70.

Do you drive 55?

if thats the posted speed i do.
but for many it seems theres no actual speed limit regulation when it comes to passing.
the primary reason for traffic congestion and accidents are from slow and fast speeds from drivers

[ponjohn]

[quote=wytnyt;4177551
the primary reason for traffic congestion and accidents are from slow and fast speeds from drivers[/quote]

Is this speculation or fact, because I would love to do a traffic study to find out why traffic slows and there is no apparent reason why.

I believe that traffic is significantly slowed from entering vehicles from on ramps, rest areas etc. IF people obeyed the slow to fast lanes traffic would move with less problems.

I don't have an issue at all with drivers obeying the speed limit. But please drive in the right hand lane.

[wytnyt]

if everyone did the speed limit, traffic would flow better,people think the passing lane has no posted limit .
and if everyone did the speed limit there would be no need for the passing lane IF thats all it was designed for,but it isnt.
its for traffic dispersing and reducing congestion,which is why some highways have 3,4,5 + lanes

[pierced mikey]

Originally Posted by wytnyt

if the speed limit is 55,,,wheres your beef?

Left lane is the passing lane. Most states the law is actually "keep right except to pass"

R.I. drivers are notorious left lane hogs. Until they are on the side of the exit they want then they cut off people(no turn signal) to take the exit. They also go from a dead stop on the on ramp, to the left lane. I've come close to a lot of accidents because of the idiots in that state.

[Mr_GTO]

Originally Posted by pierced mikey

Left lane is the passing lane. Most states the law is actually "keep right except to pass"

R.I. drivers are notorious left lane hogs. Until they are on the side of the exit they want then they cut off people(no turn signal) to take the exit. They also go from a dead stop on the on ramp, to the left lane. I've come close to a lot of accidents because of the idiots in that state.

You should see it going 24S near Brockton.....there is a reason why traffic backs up in that section of 24 EVERY DAY.

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by ponjohn

GET THE PUCK OUT OF THE WAY......

I drive a lot. I have dozens of circumstances where Prius owners are camped out in the fast lane at 58mph, with 15 cars behind them.

I applaud you for driving a hybrid but don't sit out there and try and control the traffic.

Thanks, that feels better.

Don't kill one of those Prius owners, you could be charged with a hate crime

[performerrpm]

on the fastlane deal, if iam running the speed limit and can obviously see the pace of traffic is 5-10 mph faster and iam the bottle neck, and dont wanna go any faster ill move over, on the other hand if iam running the speed limit and passing everybody but one ahole or iam running 5-or 10 over the limit and that same ahole gets behind me riding my bumper, which really only bothers me at night when they make where i cant see i find me whatever it is in the truck that i can use to bing someone over the head with first, then i break check the sht out ofem, then if they dont like that idea they sureley dont like my next idea which is to direct them to the side of the road, i hate people running my bumper and out on the highway i like plenty of space in front and behind me and as far as iam concerned that little piece of road that iam taking up at that very minute belongs to me and i aint movin

[David Holmberg]

After driving the 320 miles round trip to the PRI show today its back on the top of my list.

I HATE left lane campers. I don't care if you're going 20 over, when the lane to your right is clear move over. When there is a car coming up on you, move over. It's common courtesy, it's polite, its the right thing to do. Just like when shopping in a big store and you run into your friend, you don't stand in the middle of the isle blocking everyone, you move off to the side. I'd bet that the people camped in the left lane are the same ones blocking the isles in the store. I call them the "ME" people, they only care about themselves.

Mikey is exactly right, the right left lane is for passing.

I also find that it's not the speeders that cause the problems (for the most part) its the people driving 55 in a 70 that do. Everyone has to do a brake slam and quick change to get around them, causing everyone in that lane to hammer the brakes, chain reaction.

[wytnyt]

people can tailor the ''passing lane'' to suit whatever their needs may be or want but
if the speed limit is 55 and a driver is doing 55 in the pass lane NO one has the legal right to pass .
of course society is fixated on the idea of being that one car ahead thinking
its really gonna save them time.

some just cant handle following
these type of people are the primary cause for accidents
and that comes from seeing mishaps every day for 30 + years

[Tripower455]

Originally Posted by wytnyt

people can tailor the ''passing lane'' to suit whatever their needs may be or want but
if the speed limit is 55 and a driver is doing 55 in the pass lane NO one has the legal right to pass .
of course society is fixated on the idea of being that one car ahead thinking
its really gonna save them time.

some just cant handle following
these type of people are the primary cause for accidents
and that comes from seeing mishaps every day for 30 + years

You're not driving in a parade.

Being in close proximity to other vehicles while driving exactly or under the speed limit is FAR more dangerous than proper lane usage and passing, even at considerably over the limit. If there's nobody next to you, then you won't hit them when you blow a tire, try to avoid road debris, change lanes without looking, hydroplane, doze off, swerve while texting, answer a call, eat etc etc etc.

I've been sideswiped 3 times in the last 20 years while involuntarily stuck in "parade mode" ( behind morons driving exactly the same speed next to each other in every lane). I've never had an accident when going well above the speed limit, mainly because it vastly reduces exposure to other vehicles.

The left lane is for passing. (period) If you're not passing, regardless of your speed, then move right. It really is a simple rule, designed to facilitate the flow of traffic.

Oh, and I feel your pain David H! THEY'RE BAAAAAACK! In spite of the awesome weather, I am about to put the GTO away for a few months after driving around today. Holy crap are there some bad drivers out there and NONE of them are speeding.......

[77GP]

What about the a**holes that will not merge over when its posted 5 miles back, lane closure ahead. We could get through those if people would just merge and not wait till 1/8 mile to try and get over. That just kills me and I will never let anyone over in that situation. Possibly adding to the jam but hey whatever. Almost had a guy hit me because I wouldn't let him in. I wasn't budging. I think the Prius thread has been hi-jacked. Sometimes I dont mind being behind someone doing the limit, it keeps me from speeding.....and a ticket.

[wytnyt]

Originally Posted by Tripower455

You're not driving in a parade.

Being in close proximity to other vehicles while driving exactly or under the speed limit is FAR more dangerous than proper lane usage and passing, even at considerably over the limit. If there's nobody next to you, then you won't hit them when you blow a tire, try to avoid road debris, change lanes without looking, hydroplane, doze off, swerve while texting, answer a call, eat etc etc etc.

I've been sideswiped 3 times in the last 20 years while involuntarily stuck in "parade mode" ( behind morons driving exactly the same speed next to each other in every lane). I've never had an accident when going well above the speed limit, mainly because it vastly reduces exposure to other vehicles.

The left lane is for passing. (period) If you're not passing, regardless of your speed, then move right. It really is a simple rule, designed to facilitate the flow of traffic.

Oh, and I feel your pain David H! THEY'RE BAAAAAACK! In spite of the awesome weather, I am about to put the GTO away for a few months after driving around today. Holy crap are there some bad drivers out there and NONE of them are speeding.......

lol,ok,
i guess you zip past them before they can hit you
i guess you must have a special license that makes you a safer driver if you speed.
in reference to your ''parade '' driving ,,that is THE SAFEST FORM OF DRIVING.
think about it
parade hits are very light since all are going the same speed VS.
some nut speeding 30 over and plowing into a car
and yes slower moving cars pose the same danger as speeders

[Tripower455]

Originally Posted by wytnyt

lol,ok,
i guess you zip past them before they can hit you

Exactly! It's worked great for almost 30 years! Would I be safer if I stay next to them longer so that they can hit me?

i guess you must have a special license that makes you a safer driver if you speed.

Yup, it's called common sense, situational awareness and a basic understanding of physics. Speed is not the only factor to consider when driving safely, although most folks don't seem to understand that. Proper lane usage, along with a few other things are just as important.

The safest place on the road is inside a very large buffer zone, which means out by yourself, away from other vehicles, regardless of speed. It gives you room to maneuver if something happens to you or another car.

in reference to your ''parade '' driving ,,that is THE SAFEST FORM OF DRIVING.
think about it
parade hits are very light since all are going the same speed VS.
some nut speeding 30 over and plowing into a car
and yes slower moving cars pose the same danger as speeders

Safest form of driving? How about NOT getting hit at all? You're far less likely to get hit if there are no other cars to hit you nearby.

Most of the time, you're far safer going over the limit and passing (avoiding parade hits altogether) then driving exactly the limit next to someone for miles on end.

Why put yourself in the position to be hit, when it's so easy to avoid it? A "parade hit" from an 18 wheeler at 70 (the limit on the interstates down here) is safer than going 10-15 over to pass it? Most folks around here seem to think so.....

Personally, I'd prefer a speeding ticket to an accident, but I am definitely in the minority in these parts.

There must be some type of schooling instinct built in to people. It defies common sense and logic to willingly choose to put yourself into a dangerous position right next to another car (when you have other options) at any speed, so I assume it's some type of subconscious thing that folks don't even think about. Or it's my other theory that they are all morons!

[Tripower455]

Originally Posted by wytnyt

lol,ok,
i guess you zip past them before they can hit you
i guess you must have a special license that makes you a safer driver if you speed.
in reference to your ''parade '' driving ,,that is THE SAFEST FORM OF DRIVING.
think about it
parade hits are very light since all are going the same speed VS.
some nut speeding 30 over and plowing into a car
and yes slower moving cars pose the same danger as speeders

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I thought of this post a few weeks ago when I watched 2 cars get totaled (from way too close a perspective) on I4 while in "parade" mode, well under the 70 mph speed limit. It was a bright, sunny day on a dry road. ZERO reason for this to happen and completely avoidable.

Of course, there was the guy in the left lane (I call these folks the grand marshall) that simply wouldn't pass an 18 wheeler with miles of road in front of him.

There was a pickup in between me and the grand marshall, and a honda in the middle lane behind the 18 wheeler, next to the pickup, all driving EXACTLY the same speed. This parade went on, without any opportunity to pass, for over 4 miles. Apparently the driver of the honda forgot that she was driving RIGHT NEXT TO A FULL SIZE PICKUP TRUCK, signalled a lane change, and started to go without even a glance, right at the pickup. He saw it coming, and swerved/honked, and she missed him (the first time). She overreacted, lost control of the car, swerving across all 3 lanes and back, hitting (damn near broadsiding!) the pickup, sending him off into the trees on the left shoulder, and sending her across 3 lanes again into the right shoulder in a cloud of dirt.

This all happened right in front of me, and I JUST missed hitting the pickup as he departed the pavement (good thing I always leave space), but took some shrapnel damage to my radiator. One of my co workers was in the lane to my right and about 3 car lengths back, and couldn't believe I came out the other side of the cloud of dust and car parts.

Parade kiss.... whatever......

Had the Grand Marshall friggin' passed like he was supposed to, it probably wouldn't have happened. And the pickup truck guy could've "zipped past before she could hit him". Of course, the GM got away with no damage at all.

I am thoroughly sick of dealing with idiot "drivers".

[bonneville Joe]

When I see someone in a prius, I just feel compelled to pass them. Something about my 22mpg gas sipping LS2 at WOT in thier ear makes me giggle.

As far as bad drivers, stay outta South Carolina. Omg. People around here are notorious for pulling out in front of you. 2 lane roads, there won't be anyone behind you for 20 miles but someone on a side road hauls ass to get out in front of you then drive 35mph.

[Formulabruce]

I like the Prius drivers that are TEACHERS and put a gas mileage sign in the back window!
I felt compelled to write a reply to one and had it on my truck tail gate for a few days and boy I got lots of thumbs up!!
Sign said ... "My battery is NOT $6,000 Dollars!!"

[GT182]

Jeff Duham drives a blue Prius, and Walter tells him... "Yer gay!" LOL

[Half-Inch Stud]

Originally Posted by GT182

Jeff Duham drives a blue Prius, and Walter tells him... "Yer gay!" LOL

What's the noise a Prius makes?

[wytnyt]

Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud

What's the noise a Prius makes?

its a very quiet fart.
ive wondered what the artificial motor noise their installing in them now actually sounds like

[BOPcollector]

Maybe it sounds like this...........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo