[Captainofiron]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

It wasn't for ratings, it's adrenalin fueled and for someone that has never sat in an oval track race car you have no idea of what it's like when your night is ruined by some boneheaded move by another driver. I have and I have been in the same fight or flight situation, anyone that thinks otherwise that it's scripted or something has no idea of what oval track racing is about or what it's like to sit in one of those cars. NASCAR doesn't need to script drama, there's plenty of REAL stuff going on every week at any oval track, whether it's a 1/3 mile dirt bull ring or a 2 1/2 mile super speedway.

sorry ricky bobby, didnt mean to ruffle your feathers

[67GTONUT]

It was all "just racing" until Kyle hooked Harvick and sent him into the wall..... just way to blatant and dangerous of a move....

Then the pushing of Harviks's driverless car was just plain stupid..... As far as just trying to get away from Harvick.... I do believe Reverse still works on a NASCAR stock car...

Both will be fined..... Busch should sit out a race for the pit road action

[The Boss]

It's a dangerous sport and guys can & do get injured.

I'm all for letting men be men and solve problems between themselves, on or off the track - it's how this sport got started. I'm tired of the corporate spokes-model drivers and their politically correct answers, naming all of their sponsors and having two gulps of their named sports drink.

When you get right down to it, it's all we've got left to watch - after all, the cars are the same at this point!

[Wick]

It happens in any sport, you don't play to lose. Did anyone see the Las Vegas Supercross last weekend? Stewart crashed (again) and took out someone (again) but this time the rider (Kevin Windam) went after Stewart and the track personnel had to break it up.

[ho428]

Originally Posted by 67GTONUT

It was all "just racing" until Kyle hooked Harvick and sent him into the wall..... just way to blatant and dangerous of a move....

Busch should actually be suspended for a month since he's done that so many times.
Two races for hooking, two for pushing the car in the pits.

I'm on track with 35-40 other cars every race, if we did something that blatant we'd be suspended for the year. Do it again and it's for life.
In road racing we end up punting a car from time to time due to different class cars with much different brake set ups, so it's part of the game but usually only draws a warning. Rare that it's intentional.

Racing and rubbing is one thing, hooking a car that intentionally is way over the line.
Doing it in front of the field shows he has no regard or respect for any other racers and teams.

I think Kyle has a snap mindset, once he snaps he becomes singularly focused, what makes him a good driver also makes him a very dangerous driver.
Time to sit him down for awhile.

Harvicks a hot head as well and he snapped, but usually he's somewhat right about why.
He needs a one race suspension for getting out in the pits.

[carbking]

Bottom line: they are both incredibly talented children. Of course, that image applies to many athletes and celebs.

In this instance, would be nice to see at least a one-race suspension for each; Busch for deliberately wrecking Harvick in front of the field, and Harvick for stopping and creating a possible dangerous situation on pit road. And the push of the driverless car probably deserves more suspension, but if Harvick hadn't stopped, the push wouldn't have happened.

My guess, unhealthy fine and probation for each.

Jon.

[Bob Rutledge]

In the high dollar motorsport, what would be a healthy fine? Money is not an object to them. I imagine with the points system now the way it is, instead of fine, take points as it is very hard to make up a bunch of points now.

[Old Bird]

Sit Busch out two races for his two stupid moves and Harvick out for one race for his.

[INJUNTOM]

Originally Posted by Old Bird

Sit Busch out two races for his two stupid moves and Harvick out for one race for his.

Yep, losing all chance to win the championship might change their attitudes..

[bonneville Joe]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor...robation_N.htm

Punishment fits the crime. NASCAR has neutered the drivers enough and as I said before. The empty grandstands prove it.

[arbys]

It was funny that Busch had reverse about 1-2 minutes before the incident on pit road. They were on the track and Busch used reverse trying to get away from Harvick.

[ho428]

I'd actually watch more if it was tighter controlled racing.
The wrecks and drama are not why I watch.

Jeff Gordon and Jeff Burton were a classic example of "really" losing it due to on track rubbing-racing. That was real, as was Montoya and Newman.
Busch and Harvick are just hot head Primo donnas that create their own controversy and have no respect for anyone they might take out. Need to park em for awhile.

Lucky for me there's not a single NASCAR race on the schedule I want to watch for awhile. Probation for a few weeks? This type penalty makes me sick of it.

[MikeNoun]

Both drivers were fined $25,000 for the incident. After being spun by Busch in the closing laps of the race, Harvick stopped his Chevrolet in front of Busch's Toyota on pit road, exited the car and tried to confront Busch. After Harvick took a few wild swings at his window net, Busch (whose car had no reverse gear) knocked Harvick's car aside and drove to the pits.

No reverse gear? How did they determine that?

I'm not a fan of either driver, but it makes for entertaining racing. The sport would be boring if Kyle wasn't out there. The kid wins, and he wins a lot. The downside is his attitude.

He's a punk.

[Captainofiron]

Originally Posted by MikeNoun

Both drivers were fined $25,000 for the incident. After being spun by Busch in the closing laps of the race, Harvick stopped his Chevrolet in front of Busch's Toyota on pit road, exited the car and tried to confront Busch. After Harvick took a few wild swings at his window net, Busch (whose car had no reverse gear) knocked Harvick's car aside and drove to the pits.

No reverse gear? How did they determine that?

I'm not a fan of either driver, but it makes for entertaining racing. The sport would be boring if Kyle wasn't out there. The kid wins, and he wins a lot. The downside is his attitude.

He's a punk.

hmm, Im curious too

especially since
http://www.cutawaycreations.com/cuta...es/image36.jpg

the Toyotas have a reverse gear in there.haha

[Region Warrior]

Probly to ascared to find reverse or get it out of gear
Like alot of people, brave while drive'n, but wuss's when thier stopped.

[Bob Rutledge]

Kurt Busch learned a lesson, kinda what Kyle needs now. Where is Jimmy Spencer when you need him?

[Captainofiron]

Originally Posted by Region Warrior

Probly to ascared to find reverse or get it out of gear
Like alot of people, brave while drive'n, but wuss's when thier stopped.

haha

yea shaking hands make it hard to make it into reverse

[bigunde]

Originally Posted by ho428

I'd actually watch more if it was tighter controlled racing.The wrecks and drama are not why I watch.

Jeff Gordon and Jeff Burton were a classic example of "really" losing it due to on track rubbing-racing. That was real, as was Montoya and Newman.
Busch and Harvick are just hot head Primo donnas that create their own controversy and have no respect for anyone they might take out. Need to park em for awhile.

Lucky for me there's not a single NASCAR race on the schedule I want to watch for awhile. Probation for a few weeks? This type penalty makes me sick of it.

Please explain??? MORE rules?????

[bigunde]

Originally Posted by bonneville Joe

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor...robation_N.htm

Punishment fits the crime. NASCAR has neutered the drivers enough and as I said before. The empty grandstands prove it.

Agreed. Cant believe SOME think there need to be MORE rules.

[Bob Rutledge]

I think they should be able to race, and afterwards take care of business if somebody gets to far out of line. But pushing a driverless car in the pits = somebody hurt or dead. That is uncalled for.