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Old 12-06-2012, 11:00 PM
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The installation tool used is called the "McHackey."

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Old 12-07-2012, 12:23 AM
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Just curious, what tool do you guys generally use to seat the main caps?
Not a BFH!! Looks like someone used that specialty tool on those main caps!
What's up with 2 stamped over the 4 on the mains???

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Old 12-07-2012, 03:32 AM
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:10 AM
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Not a BFH!! Looks like someone used that specialty tool on those main caps!
What's up with 2 stamped over the 4 on the mains???
The 4 is also stamped over the 2.

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Old 12-07-2012, 08:39 AM
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Not a big fan of stamping delicate engine parts like connecting rods or main caps. If I stamp them, which I do sometimes, plan on resizing the housing bores. At a minimum, check therm before use. Stamping will distort them, especially aluminum rods. I much prefer using an engraver. Just another little trick I learned from the best, Joe Mondello and a few other "old timers". It's all about the details.

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:44 AM
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Has anyone else tried this McCarty/BES head bolt cooling mod? It does look much easier to do than running external coolant lines. I have serious doubts it’s actually going to work though.

Yes that is a head bolt you can see through the opening in the intake port.


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Seriously, WTF is the deal with this engine? It's one problem after another

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Old 12-07-2012, 01:19 PM
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Seriously, WTF is the deal with this engine? It's one problem after another
x2. I spent the time reading thru all the pages awhile back and that thing is scary!! From everything I've read and the photo's posted, none of this looks or sounds remotely like something BES would initially do in any of their builds, now what happens to it after it leaves their shop can be another story! They are local to me and I've never heard anything negative on the quality of their work and They've been around for a long time in this area. I know who I'd be pitchin a fit with on all of this.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:24 PM
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x2. I spent the time reading thru all the pages awhile back and that thing is scary!! From everything I've read and the photo's posted, none of this looks or sounds remotely like something BES would initially do in any of their builds, now what happens to it after it leaves their shop can be another story! They are local to me and I've never heard anything negative on the quality of their work and They've been around for a long time in this area. I know who I'd be pitchin a fit with on all of this.
Sad deal.
This engine was shipped directly from BES.

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Old 12-07-2012, 01:30 PM
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This engine was shipped directly from BES.
Have you talked directly with them over this? I'm just stunned to believe that they are totally behind the build of your motor and some of the hack work pictured in your post.

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Old 12-07-2012, 01:33 PM
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This ******* deal is a hack job - unbelievable - I would contact BES and find out EXACTLY what there envolvement was - some one needs an asskicking over this deal

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Old 12-07-2012, 02:04 PM
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This ******* deal is a hack job - unbelievable - I would contact BES and find out EXACTLY what there envolvement was - some one needs an asskicking over this deal
I reached out to BES this morning via email.

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Old 12-07-2012, 06:53 PM
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I really hope this all works out for you. You deserve a break, this gets worse everytime you post.

Are you certain that the engine wasn't delivered as is to BES and they just dynoed and tuned it?

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Old 12-07-2012, 07:11 PM
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I really hope this all works out for you. You deserve a break, this gets worse everytime you post.

Are you certain that the engine wasn't delivered as is to BES and they just dynoed and tuned it?
Yes, I'm sure.

On a positive note, it can’t get much worse as there is not much left to take a part. Knock on wood…

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Old 12-07-2012, 10:33 PM
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Can you just chorme plate them? I always heard making something shining makes it fast?

Sorry to see more of your engine parts was treated the same way. But the bare block I received had the same hammer marks on it. I purchased mine "unused" from someone on the board. Maybe they let each other use the same tool..... or a tool was using the wrong tool.

Hopefully a quick check says it ok?

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Old 12-07-2012, 11:05 PM
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That was a BFH to make that kind of dent in the caps. Whatever happened to using BRASS tools to snug things in place?

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Looks like they let the apprentice teaboy build your engine,that is rough work.

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Old 12-08-2012, 08:32 PM
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That was a BFH to make that kind of dent in the caps. Whatever happened to using BRASS tools to snug things in place?

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Brass hammer is fine. I also use a plastic dead blow hammer with the lead shot inside. Works great. That main cap is fubar'd!!

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Old 12-08-2012, 10:12 PM
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WOW,
Wt....f happened here !! This is worse than a nightmare on elm street .
I can not understand how this could have gone so bad and have BES name or involvement
This is looking like someone has no clue, but the Bigger problem is they did , WHOEVER was working on that engine did not give one **** about it and in the end has done great damage to their reputation and BES !!

Really sad , sorry man.
Please don't delete this, as this needs answers.

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Old 12-09-2012, 10:31 AM
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Not a big fan of stamping delicate engine parts like connecting rods or main caps. If I stamp them, which I do sometimes, plan on resizing the housing bores. At a minimum, check therm before use. Stamping will distort them, especially aluminum rods. I much prefer using an engraver. Just another little trick I learned from the best, Joe Mondello and a few other "old timers". It's all about the details.
X2

I try to treat each part very carefully and check every part several times. I also use an engraver to mark parts, if necessary. I try to work on only one assembly at a time which keeps the possibility of mixing parts remote.

I do not build an engine when I am tired or in a hurry.

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