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Old 09-12-2015, 08:23 PM
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I know that itchy finger feeling! That's why we are playing with Gramma's car now.

Looking forward to watching whatever you decide to do!

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Old 09-12-2015, 09:08 PM
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The lens looks nice!

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Old 09-12-2015, 09:14 PM
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Can I send u my lenses?

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Old 09-12-2015, 09:40 PM
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Can I send u my lenses?
Once the season closes I'd be happy to clean them up for you - my pleasure. Only takes about 15 minutes per side. If your serious, send me a PM and I'll get you an address.

Hope all is well with you. I may try to get up to the Mecum show in Schaumburg Oct. 8-10. If you and some of the wild bunch is around we'll have to hook up if I can pull it off.

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Old 09-12-2015, 09:57 PM
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Your lens turned out nice. My rate of failure doing this is 20%...use too much muscle and crack them.

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Old 09-12-2015, 10:15 PM
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Wet sand up to 5000g and it takes very little pressure with the buffer. I just did one pass with a light cutting pad and the Menzerna to finish them after the sanding.

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Old 09-12-2015, 10:20 PM
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Menzerna? Is that anything like a Mansierre?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL4Sl6oVuyk

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Old 09-13-2015, 08:44 AM
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Sparky and I normaly take in a day at Mecum.

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Old 09-14-2015, 11:29 AM
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Bob, that lens looks great! Nice work!!!

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Old 09-19-2015, 11:32 AM
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Well, today must be my lucky day. I have had an ongoing search on eBay now for over a year looking for bodyside molding for the Black Car, primarily for the door. Bingo, today an NOS piece surfaced and I am now the proud absentee owner. I didn't even look at the price - I just hit Buy It Now. Hopefully it will not be damaged in shipping.

This is the worst piece on the Black Car as at some point a PO shot a screw through the existing molding to lock it in place. Here is the old and new. The old picture was taken during the wet sanding and buff out process.

I now have one door piece, and one front fender piece. I am interested if anyone has a few pieces hoarded away.





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Old 09-19-2015, 01:23 PM
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Did you tell the seller to ship it inside a section of PVC pipe? I think That's how I sent that front piece to you IIRC?

Go Bob Go!

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Old 10-24-2015, 05:47 PM
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Ok, so I have thought long and hard about my winter project and have decided to blow up the Black Car and rebuild it. MPD and I started draining the fluids today, and tomorrow we will start pulling the drivetrain and stripping it underhood to the subframe. We are also going to strip the interior and trunk prior to it's journey to the painter. At this time I am not planning to do a full blown rotisserie, but once the car is stripped to metal and the budget is more clear that might change.

I'm pretty excited about this and can't wait to get started. I have been accumulating NOS bodyside molding, but only have 3 of the 6 necessary pieces. Therefore, I plan to have the holes welded over and will leave the molding off until I can collect all 6. I am still undecided on the rear spoiler which was an add on, but I like the way it looks and imagine that I would have added it "back in the day" so it will probably stay.

I do need a at least one part which is the hanger bracket which mounts to front of the oil pan and holds the fuel return/vapor lines from the fuel pump. I would love to have one if anyone can oblige, but a picture of this would also be helpful since I seem to remember thinking that it wouldn't be hard to modify some other hanger to look basically stock. Right know I have a zip tie from NJSteve. I also plan to swap out the metal valance for an ABS valance, but need to know if the ABS valance also requires the center support bracket that Norwood makes.

Thanks in advance for everyone's help. I look forward to helping this section of PY keep from being overrun by the Cream Puff crowd and their girly cars.....

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Old 10-24-2015, 06:58 PM
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This blows my mind!! Get your zip lock bags and markers ready! If bolts could talk! I probably have the bracket for fuel 72. I will look on a couple cars. Good luck. Hope to see it done in 2017 !

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I would like to come down and spend a few days with 'the masters' either in tear down or reassembly as an extra hand.

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Old 10-24-2015, 09:46 PM
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Thanks for the response.

NJSteve - I love the NOS zip tie...Let's see what the body/restoration guy says once he gets it stripped down, but I'm not planning on removing the quarters to replace inner wheel housings unless it is a real issue. It all seems solid, and I am not looking for perfection so absolute that I won't drive it and end up selling it to a museum owner...Tom Fisher - formally of Muscle Car Alley fame - will be doing the paint and bodywork, and handling the restoration on the core, subframe, and front suspension.

Eaglesan13 - that's the bracket/hanger. Thanks.

Bruce - 2017??? I am planning to have this thing done for driving season next year and the TA NATZ. If you have one of those brackets I would be very appreciative. It would go well with the rest of your hardware holding the car together.

Doug - That would be great, I would love to see you and I know Dave would as well. I'll stay in touch as this progresses. I am hoping to have it stripped down and ready to ship by next Sunday evening, so next weekend will be action packed.

Lastly - I am also looking for NOS inner and outer door sweeps. These would be for a decor trim car.

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Old 10-24-2015, 09:57 PM
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I predict 3 months from start to finish.

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Old 10-25-2015, 08:10 AM
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I think that bracket was made for Steve

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Old 10-25-2015, 10:44 AM
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I think that bracket was made for Steve
Correct, Sir! Norwood used the bracket that was on my Gramma's 1975 Firebird to make the version he sells. Turns out they used that bracket not only on the 1972 and 73 polyethylene valances, but with the 1974-75 valances as well.

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Old 10-25-2015, 10:47 AM
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Was that pulley on the black car??? Remember that the fixed position 80 amp alternator setup uses different pulleys than the regular adjustable position alternator.

Here's a shot of Gramma's engine which uses the same 80 amp setup and dual pulley.
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Old 10-25-2015, 11:07 AM
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Bob, both of my 72 455HO a/c cars have the same 485397 YN as yours, and I believe they are correct. As Steve mentioned, the black car has the 80A alt with the idler pulley. I don't know if they used the same water pump pulley. I would think they would be the same. Maybe someone can look it up in an assembly manual or GM parts list to verify?

My non a/c 72 T/A has the much bigger 481039 XF pulley.

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