[The Boss]

I've got three sets loaded in the truck, see you in a few hours!

Look great Bob!

[Bentwheelbob]

Originally Posted by The Boss

I've got three sets loaded in the truck, see you in a few hours!

Look great Bob!

Don't forget the cooler. I've got a 13 year old here that would love a go kart for Christmas too, if there's room. What a cool find that was.

[Judge273]

Put some F60s on those...Looks great. Hope all is well with Dave too! 13 yo girls don't want go carts...haha

[Bentwheelbob]

Originally Posted by Judge273

Put some F60s on those...Looks great. Hope all is well with Dave too! 13 yo girls don't want go carts...haha

Yeah, I have thought about getting Poly's, but hate to spend the $1200 - I've gone broke buying engine paint...

MPD is doing much better. Discharged last night. He may have had a very mild heart attack, but an extremely high potassium level in his blood seems to be the main thing drawing focus. They have tweaked his med's and put him on a lot of new stuff, but he should be back in action for a few more laps...

I thought one of the benefits of being a parent was that you got to buy your kid things you wanted as a child, but either could not afford or could not convince your parents would not result in severe bodily injury. I better be careful though, because the last time I popped off here a Black Car ended up in the Hot Rod Garage.

[njsteve]

Yeah, ya gotta hate that when people call your bluff! :-)

Great to hear that Dave is better. It was great meeting him when he came up and picked up the black car. What a character.

[Bentwheelbob]

Was flipping through NJSteve's new thread looking for some engine paint pictures and saw this picture of his unused spare tire and the texture on the honeycomb. The finish from the OER paint I used compared very favorably.

NOS



OER

[Formulabruce]

looks PUURRRFECT!!

[Bentwheelbob]

I work to live...and I am looking forward to living the next few days.

A few things planned for Black Car this weekend. After getting the honeycombs all cleaned up, I had a hard time not doing a little more while the car was up in the air and without wheels. I blasted the brake drums, repainted them and took them to my tire guy and had them turned today. I also cleaned up and repainted the wheel flanges. I think I will clean up the suspension and other wheel well components tomorrow before reinstalling the tires. Nothing crazy, but some progress.

MPD is coming over in the morning for a little recuperative therapy. He is doing well and slowly getting back into the swing. He appreciated all the support from the PY brotherhood. Here's a few pictures:

[Bentwheelbob]

Well, the wheel project is finished and they look much better. All I need now is to let the paint cure really well and then install the chrome trim rings. Just kidding - no trim rings. In addition to blasting and painting the drums and axle flanges, we also removed and painted the shocks, removed, blasted and painted the bump stop brackets, and did a good general cleaning and degreasing. The only thing that I did not get accomplished was removing and repainting the leaf springs. It looks like they have been wet and are rusting on the sides, and the top and bottom surfaces don't look too hot either. Steve stenciled the part number on them when they were replaced and I'll need to figure out where to get an appropriate stencil to replicate that touch. Here are some pictures:

[Pepi]

Looks good. I wish I had your garage and lift

[njsteve]

Looks great. (Nice of you to re-index the tire letters in the same spot...like they were before) :-)

P.S. Keep the side moldings, they set the car off nicely.

P.P.S Or if you decide to remove them, then put on the white/silver reflective 1972 Formula stripe that went down the side of the car.

[Bentwheelbob]

Originally Posted by njsteve

Looks great. (Nice of you to re-index the tire letters in the same spot...like they were before) :-)

I wondered if you would notice, and would have bet that it did not get past your radar.

A couple of questions...What is the story on the leaf spring stencil? I assume that replicates original factory markings? Also, the brake lines on the rear axle are flex lines. Would they have been flex originally, or would they have been hard lines?

Thanks,

Bob

[Held for Ransom]

Didn't even get past my radar. When I saw the pictures, the first thought was... not another one.

[njsteve]

Originally Posted by Bentwheelbob

I wondered if you would notice, and would have bet that it did not get past your radar.

A couple of questions...What is the story on the leaf spring stencil? I assume that replicates original factory markings? Also, the brake lines on the rear axle are flex lines. Would they have been flex originally, or would they have been hard lines?

Thanks,

Bob

The leaf spring part number is painted from the same stencil I made for the 72 T/A which replicates the part number found on that car.

What do you mean by "flex line"? The correct coil spring wrapped steel lines run from each wheel cylinder to the brass block on top of the differential and then a rubber line goes vertically to the hard line above the fuel tank. That is the factory set up.

[Bentwheelbob]

Steve - I was asking about the coil spring line. My other cars all have standard steel lines at the axle. What dictated the use of a coil spring wrapped line on the F-Bodies?

HFR - very subtle. Sort of...

[njsteve]

Maybe your other car has aftermarket lines? Here's a photo of the original differential pulled out of my 1972 T/A. It had the factory coil wrapped lines in it.

And as an added bonus, a photo of the same car's leaf spring with the original part number, next to the restored spring.

And if you shop right now, you will get the actual Ronco Spring Stencil - it dices, it slices, it makes your springs look like new!

(Just enlarge the photo to make the ruler actual size and you have correct stencil)

:-)

[Bentwheelbob]

Originally Posted by njsteve

Maybe your other car has aftermarket lines? Here's a photo of the original differential pulled out of my 1972 T/A. It had the factory coil wrapped lines in it.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. You are of course right on the brake line. Here is the 12 bolt I built last year to go in the Red Car when the engine gets swapped. Each day presents a new opportunity to learn.

[Judge273]

You still have time to finish it like the "perv or prevailing" method too....

On the right we have the cast iron paint for cast "pumkin" parts, and aluminum paint for steel "tube" parts, etc.

On the left add the black fog to back side for gm look.

[Bentwheelbob]

Still going through the stack of stuff NJSteve sent with the Black Car. Tonight I found a copy of the 1986 Hemmings ad that our Old Pal Lloyd from Texas found which was advertising the Black Car for sale. It's pretty cool, as is the main thread which centered on Lloyds hunt for a mythical GTO in old Hemmings. Lots of cool ads.

Here's the link to his post on the Black Car and a copy of the ad:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...gs#post4717087




...and here is a link to the main post on Lloyds mythical hunt and a link to a side road the discussion took. It's worth a trip down memory lane. I miss Lloyd. He always had a lot to add that was worthwhile.



http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...light=hemmings

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...light=hemmings

Happy Thanksgiving Lloyd.
.

[Bentwheelbob]

I spent most of the day killing time under the hood of the Black Car cleaning stuff up and straightening a few things out. I am planning to swap air cleaners at least temporarily so that I can blast and repaint the one on the car now. I have a nice "new" one I did for the red Car that I will put on it for the time being. However, I am perplexed by the vacuum hose routing. I can find nothing in the service manual or restoration guide. The existing air cleaner was not connected to a vacuum source. The vacuum fitting on the front drivers side of the manifold is capped off and there is nothing connected to the air cleaner. It seems like the vacuum source should connect to one side of the air inlet sensor mounted in the air cleaner and that that other nipple on that sensor should then connect to the two vacuum diaphrams. However, the way the hoses are currently hooked up has both vacuum diaphrams hooked to separate nipples on the air intake sensor (see picture label #1) and then there is a "t" fitting on one of the hoses going to the vacuum diaphrams (see picture label #2). My assumption is that this was intended for a hose to connect to that "t" fitting that was then connected on the other end to the vacuum source. This would mean however that one of the air cleaner intake flappers would always be open and the other would open when the car warmed up. Can anyone provide a diagram or some direction?

I have attached a second picture that shows the replacement vacuum hose set up I bought from PY. It appears to be designed the way I think seems correct - both vacuum actuators hooked to one side of the air inlet sensor, but the separate hose that I think would go to a vacuum source and the other side of the sensor is only about 6" long and won't come close to reaching the intake nipple on the front drivers side.

Lastly, I have a picture of the breather tube that was on the Black Car and the repop piece I bought from PY for the Red Car. I refinished the repop piece with black manganese from Palmetto, while the original is just bare metal. Which is correct? What about the difference in shape?