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Old 11-21-2013, 02:20 PM
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Great 64 GTO in a lot of respects including the research aspect!

Curious what the small holes would have been for on the inside door jams?

Also, any chance of posting a couple big clear pics of that rare automatic transmission kick down switch and bracket mounted at the left rear of center carb?

Thanks, Chris.
Well I didn't know what that switch was for....I thought it had to do with the vacuum operated Tri-Power set up. Our 65 doesn't have it but its a 4spd so that would make sense... We are on our way out of state for Thanksgiving...I will get some when I get back.

The holes in the door jams are from dealer installed Ziebart rust protection. I am not sure if in 64 they left holes like that or put plastic plugs in them...I had a ultra low mile 75 45HO TA that had had it done and it had plastic Ziebart plastic plugs in the holes...I would probably think they didn't have them in 64 but I am not sure.

This is what the Ziebart looks like under the car...







This is what the plugs on the 75 looked like...I have seen them in black too.



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Curious what the small holes would have been for on the inside door jams?
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The holes in the door jams are from dealer installed Ziebart rust protection. I am not sure if in 64 they left holes like that or put plastic plugs in them...I had a ultra low mile 75 45HO TA that had had it done and it had plastic Ziebart plastic plugs in the holes...I would probably think they didn't have them in 64 but I am not sure.
My '74 Chevelle was Ziebarted (I'm the original owner...or my mom was, anyway).

I believe the plugs are either black or a reddish/brown on mine.

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My '74 Chevelle was Ziebarted (I'm the original owner...or my mom was, anyway).

I believe the plugs are either black or a reddish/brown on mine.

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I have seen them in yellow and black...maybe they had colors to match the car? Also the ones I have seen have had the Ziebart logo and name on them. It seems the plugs started showing up in the mid 70s though...so I am not sure if they had them in the mid 60s though.

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I have seen them in yellow and black...maybe they had colors to match the car? Also the ones I have seen have had the Ziebart logo and name on them. It seems the plugs started showing up in the mid 70s though...so I am not sure if they had them in the mid 60s though.
As i recall you would take your car back for a respray after a specified time. These were a type of check up of sort. There was a no-rust warranty. Plugs could have been swapped then to newer style.

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My '66 Lemans which was white was ziebarted when new. The plugs were white. It helped and didn't help. Areas that didn't have good coverage rusted like hell...

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Old 11-28-2013, 11:31 AM
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I remember this car on EBay, too. I wanted it then; I want it now!

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My brother looked at that car in the early 80,s. It was in Akron. Was going to buy it as his first car. He actually drove it.Ran good,even though the 3/2,s were blocked off.Really nice car,he just could not do the 2-speed thing.Looking back,should of bought it and put a 4 speed in it.Its one of the best 64,s I have seen to this date!

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There's a few cars that I'd like to own but for one reason or another couldn't or didn't act on. For the time being I wait and watch to see what comes around. Thankfully I enjoy every year GTO, they all have great design elements unique to there time.

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A four speed conversion would make the car a performer, but would destroy its uniqueness and wow factor. This car is so weirdly optioned with that column shift 2 speed that it pretty much has to stay that way, IMO. If I owned the car, I might swap in a 200R4 and bag the ST300, though. It would still look correct, but be drivable on the open road. It would be a shame to modify this survivor in any way, though, IMO. Too rare, too unique. Heck, it's almost as rare as a '64 Tempest or LeMans that hasn't been cloned into a GTO!

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he just could not do the 2-speed thing.Looking back,should of bought it and put a 4 speed in it.
First of all any old classic and/or muscle car is "rarely" used for daily use these days so driving a 2 speed automatic on occassion is no big deal. Plus you get to feel just how it was designed to operate back in the 60's.

Second, to cut open a virgin floor and weld a bracket on the frame of an Original Rare 64 GTO like this would be a CRIME! This would also hinder the value now and in the future.

When I first saw this car on ebay a couple years ago I mentioned putting the 2 spd. shifter on the floor with console, but even that idea would be wrong.

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My brother looked at that car in the early 80,s. It was in Akron. Was going to buy it as his first car. He actually drove it.Ran good,even though the 3/2,s were blocked off.Really nice car,he just could not do the 2-speed thing.Looking back,should of bought it and put a 4 speed in it.Its one of the best 64,s I have seen to this date!

Wow...I am glad your brother didn't get it and cut it up. The car still runs great and the 3/2s work great...I can't imagine why they were blocked off then. I would question if you were sure it was the same car but I am sure there's not another one out there like it so it probably was.

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First of all any old classic and/or muscle car is "rarely" used for daily use these days so driving a 2 speed automatic on occassion is no big deal. Plus you get to feel just how it was designed to operate back in the 60's.

Second, to cut open a virgin floor and weld a bracket on the frame of an Original Rare 64 GTO like this would be a CRIME! This would also hinder the value now and in the future.

When I first saw this car on ebay a couple years ago I mentioned putting the 2 spd. shifter on the floor with console, but even that idea would be wrong.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING Everyone! Chris.

Amen brother...preach on!

I have told several people of your wanting one to change things on find another one and leave this one alone...it survived 50 years unmolested...let it be for another 50!

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I agree it would be a shame to cut a hole in the floor for a 4 speed. Also a shame it was ordered with a 2 speed column shifter.The car would be a blast to drive with a manual transmission,. At the end of the day its just a car.

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I remember this car on EBay, too. I wanted it then; I want it now!

I think the car is all but sold to a member on here...but if not I plan to list it next week. It's amazing the interest I have already received in the car and haven't even actually put it up for sale yet.

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Well I was expecting payment on the car tomorrow but some kind of "family situation" on the buyers end has caused him to back out so I will be listing the car in the classifieds and on eBay this week.

I do apologize to everyone that inquired about the car and I told them it was sold...But I took the buyer at his word and thought it was.

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Well I was expecting payment on the car tomorrow but some kind of "family situation" on the buyers end has caused him to back out so I will be listing the car in the classifieds and on eBay this week.

I do apologize to everyone that inquired about the car and I told them it was sold...But I took the buyer at his word and thought it was.
Robbie, Sorry to hear that! It's unfortunate that some people can't stand behind their "word"! You won't have a problem selling such a rare 64 GTO in this condition!
I would love to own it myself as I'm partial to the Tri-Power with Automatics (77J = 693 Built), but it's not in my best interest at this time.

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Robbie, Sorry to hear that! It's unfortunate that some people can't stand behind their "word"! You won't have a problem selling such a rare 64 GTO in this condition!
I would love to own it myself as I'm partial to the Tri-Power with Automatics (77J = 693 Built), but it's not in my best interest at this time.
Its not a big deal at all Chris...I know this car will sell easily. I really don't have any hard feelings toward the potential buyer at all...he is a super nice guy and taught me a few things about the car I didn't know. I know things happen and I take him at his word that he had a situation come up and he couldn't complete the transaction...it just wasn't meant to be for him to have this car. The car will end up being where its supposed to be...cars like this always do.

In the mean time since I took advantage of owning it a little longer and we drove it to church this morning...we had the only beige & gold 64 Tri-power column shift auto GTO there!


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97Ramsst, thank you very much for sharing your car with us during your brief custody of it. It's a special car, and is much appreciated by us on the forum. There are so many neat old cars that just sit in exile, locked away in dark garages for nobody to see or enjoy. Glad you drove it to church and snapped the photo...if it weren't for the 'new' cars in the background, it could very well be 1964. Thanks again for posting.

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that car belongs back here in ohio where it came from! the dealer that sold it was in cleveland hts. They used to have a turntable and would put neat new models on it. they really went after performance cars also! fred

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