[rexs73gto]

You may consider complaining about the fence to the local board because if you leave it to long the property will become theres by way of use. I know there is a proper trem for it but if you don't make them move it it will become there property line & you won't be able to move the fence to the correct placement if you don't force them to move it now. I'd make them move it NOW. Because the longer it stays the harder it will be to make them move it to the proper placement.

[Judge273]

Are you looking for advice or just amazed? Thats been that way for years with people living in it?

From that picture of the house I would say best advice would be the Zoning Dept. as you are clearly in a area that has strict zoning laws.

That is not an acceptable house in any neighborhood. It just isn't allowed by zoning or building codes, and should be fined or condemned by the city.


"Property Condition
In order for any city or municipality to remove a property from private custody, that property must be considered a blight. In other words, the city must provide substantial evidence that the property is in severe disrepair and is causing values in a neighborhood to fall. If a court finds in favor of the city, ruling that a property is a blight, the city can invoke the right of eminent domain and claim the rights to the property. If the owner can be located, compensation for the property must be made, but if the owner is not able to be located, the city can take possession of the property."

If its recent storm damage as it really appears to be, then it is probably an insurance claim waiting to be settled or repaired, good luck.

Or you can discussed with the neighbor. Say that they need to start fixing the place up or it will get worse as moisture/mold will destroy the entire house. Drainage is their least concern as water from shingle failure, and open holes or whatever that chimney is. Not to mention expose sheathing boards is not a weather barrier at all...

[bird72]

what is the story behind missing siding? unfinished work or torn down wind damage? how long that way? Reason I ask is rest of that property looks maintained, mowed, weeds don't appear bad..... if it is some damage, maybe invite neighbor for a beverage and maybe even offer advice / help on repair. maybe mend the drainage issue rift. maybe they showed up out of real concern on drainage and wanted to hear views on impacts. sounds like just kind of a festering thing.... probably not fixable like much of that stuff is, but you never know.

I have a neighbor issue also, cars parked all over back yard, front yard, keep hoping the young guy will grow up..... thought of checking code on that... seen too many neighbor things get out of hand, best to endure the minor, make a stand on the major.... drives you whacky..... winter aggravation for me is neighbors that don't shovel snow from sidewalks (Montana here). I have the local editor of the local small town rag across my street. he writes editorial section opinions on how we all should live in our valley, and he is a lazy whack job himself who never does his sidewalk! with a mail order bride to boot! gotta love neighbors!

re the fence thing, if you can't find prop corner pin, borrow or rent a pin locator, they often are buried a couple inches down. If no pin, you will need one set for any fence discussion. usually pretty cheap if other pins in vicinity to pull off of for an RLS.

[1beautifuldaughter]

(quote ) If its recent storm damage as it really appears to be, then it is probably an insurance claim waiting to be settled or repaired, good luck.(quote)

They bought the house at the same time we bought ours, 17 years ago. Ironically my house was an empty dump and his was beautiful. They went in the house and never come out to see what the house even looks like. He pays a guy to mow and the guy had to pick up the siding each time a pc falls so he can mow, its all piled up in front of the house near a window for a year and a half.
We do not talk to them, But when they first moved in they told us that they got a discount on the house to help pay for the loose siding on the house. 17 freakin years ago !! The same barbQ on the back porch has not been uncovered for 17 years. there are garden hoses in the same place. for,,Did I mention 17 years? that they mow around. The front gutter is hanging off the house,and the storm windows have been open and or missing, for you guessed it 17 freakin years! the inside of the house must be damaged, moldy, stinky and very unhealthy. Wouldn't be my business if it wasn't dragging my neighborhood down. I think the guy is just a money hoarder.

[The Boss]

I would expect there is some physical or mental condition that has led them to that. You may want to get in touch with a local Scouting or church group to see if they could help. They could spend a couple of days and clean the place up for the people.

Making a couple of calls concerned about their condition will likely get you further than complaining about your taxes & view.

[1beautifuldaughter]

Originally Posted by The Boss

I would expect there is some physical or mental condition that has led them to that. You may want to get in touch with a local Scouting or church group to see if they could help. They could spend a couple of days and clean the place up for the people.

Making a couple of calls concerned about their condition will likely get you further than complaining about your taxes & view.

I have always been very good at recognizing a distress situation, This is not one of them.
Healthy, young , Certified Public accountant, member of the Chamber of Commerce . Well educated, well spoken . In ways he is probably a lot smarter than the rest of the neighbors, Watching us pay for improvements so he can sell a crappy house in a nice neighborhood and walk away with a smile.
No kidding his hobby is money, Getting it counting it and keeping it.
I just think its unfair that towns have laws to keep me from doing things. Yet in reality in a situation like this ,if you act in some way it is usually slow and drawn out and you just end up with spite and an angry neighbor.
There was actually a photo of the guy in a local paper of him holding a pile of money and the heading said ( The Millionaire Next Door) No kidding.

Anyway thanks for all the feedback it was funny and fun,
Bottom line is there are many of us who consider others, But unfortunately there are some who don't. I will just look forward to the day I see a moving truck and a large dumpster so I won't have to deduct $25.000 from my house to sell it.
Thanks again for the fun all over comments

[Deadhead]

If the neighbors own you can try a raft of things:

Call building and zoning Dept. See if they will make them make the repairs for the safety of occupants and neighbors. Obviously many code violations

Health Dept. and express similar concerns.

Social Services. With all the taxes you are paying maybe the Govt. will cough up some money for the poor people to get their house fixed or bring in their own housing improvement entity to do the repairs with taxpayer money. Regardless of your feelings about this, the $ is already there. Might as well do some good.

Think about it, the municipality would be motivated to get the property value up so they can collect more taxes. There are tons of programs with public money to facilitate this. If you go to the Govt. with a good attitude and spinning it as though it will be to THEIR advantage to do it, you may be surprised at what happens. Talking to a private consultant before hand can give you a few good tips on the way it can be presented to be more likely to get the locality to participate. Builders will help you find this person.

When you get it resolved, the way it changes your life is well worth it believe me. I spent 6 years trying to get worthless meth heads extracted. Night and day difference in daily life.

Edit: Somehow missed the last post of this. Might help somebody else though.

[Karl Rich]

What are you complaining about I see Pontiac Parts in that junk yard. I know how you feel I have a Cuban that lives behind me and he still has the raft he came over in displayed in his yard.

[Judge273]

Wow, 17 years of that is amazing for those untouchables in your backyard!

I see your point and his to a some extent (a real sickness or ego issue). But, the fact that a family lives there is at their own health risks.

This is probably a case of full ownership and no homeowners insurance? Now a land value thing that drives them to hang on....

I could see it being a "I like the money" hoarder as it fits the way its unfolding.

Been in some "hoarders without money" homes and nothing will surprise a person who sees this with eyes and nose. People are adaptable is all I can say.

[PonchoV8]

Originally Posted by bird72

what is the story behind missing siding? unfinished work or torn down wind damage?

I think it's a case of them not having to look at that side of the house.

[Tunas73TA]

I thought someone for sure would post up a "shed of doom" reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuWQItCOb4

It made the rounds in many message threads

Here's the back story:

Build to Fail, Fail to Build. What is this I don't even.....





I bring you this for your viewing pleasure. Constructikons and do-it-your-selfers may get an extra special kick out of this one.

So, my landlord has taken it upon himself to build a 'toolshed'. For a roto-tiller. At least, that's the entirety of what he told us - there is, however, some inherent communication issues. (He's Korean, and not yet well versed in english (though certainly much better than my Korean)). There's one door so far, and a lawnmower will not even fit through it. (I don't think he knows that yet though)

So, this is the 'project' thus far. For one, the ground it's being built is mushy moist marshland - your feet sink with every step. Which is always ideal for a good foundation - or complete lack thereof.

It may not be immediately obvious, but I don't think this man has a background in construction.
It appears he owns a hammer and saw, perhaps a measuring tape, perhaps not. Certainly nothing like a square, straightedge, or level.
I guestimate that he has seen no more than 3 episodes of various home improvement shows, and maybe at best he's driven by a construction site atleast once in his life. After all, "how hard could it be?"

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/sh...s-I-don-t-even

[thadeal4real]

must be a lot of baby boomers in this thread I don't get where its going