[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Uhh, because they don't make any power!

His E heads will donkey stop the **** out of your 572 cv1 camaro at Norwalk!

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Not pound for pound, never happen. You can take that to the bank!

... how many times have you stated the heads suck, they don't make power' they can't make 1000hp, etc etc ?? ...

... but after years of your bashing and slamming, when i ask if you've considered Fulton may well hand you your azz, you don't deny, in fact you make an excuse based on pound for pound ?? This aint boxing Jack ...

... if the head is such a POS, then how is this even possible ?? i mean with your new super donkey-phuck billet top end and all ?? ...

... are you that quick to admit Fulton might just whip that azz ?? ... i mean one minute your skull phuking the donkey with Fulton, and now you're already making excuses about pound for pound stuff ?? ...

... please make up your mind already, either you hate them, or you don't ... and for the record, what will the red sled weigh this year Jack ?? because i think you and Fulton will be closer in weight than you'd like to admit ...

[R 70 Judge]

I think this would be the issue regarding weight.

Your HP is 1,457.71 computed from your vehicle weight of 3500 pounds and ET of 7.8 seconds.

Your HP is 1,166.17 computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and ET of 7.8 seconds.

[lemans411]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

I think this would be the issue regarding weight.

Your HP is 1,457.71 computed from your vehicle weight of 3500 pounds and ET of 7.8 seconds.

Your HP is 1,166.17 computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and ET of 7.8 seconds.

i know for a fact fultons car weighed at least 3100# up at bir, did he add weight? i dont know.
he did however run a 7.98 @ 171 at 3100 lbs in the video below. pay no attention to the lemans in the near lane that got nervous and red lit. on a side note its kinda funny that both of the cars in this video are currently changing over to A.P.D. ported CV1's .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQtA6SKGojk

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by lemans411

i know for a fact fultons car weighed at least 3100# up at bir, did he add weight? i dont know.
he did however run a 7.98 @ 171 at 3100 lbs in the video below. pay no attention to the lemans in the near lane that got nervous and red lit. on a side note its kinda funny that both of the cars in this video are currently changing over to A.P.D. ported CV1's .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQtA6SKGojk

I was just giving examples to show how heavily weight can influence performance. I don't know the actual weights of either car you referenced.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... how many times have you stated the heads suck, they don't make power' they can't make 1000hp, etc etc ?? ...

... but after years of your bashing and slamming, when i ask if you've considered Fulton may well hand you your azz, you don't deny, in fact you make an excuse based on pound for pound ?? This aint boxing Jack ...

... if the head is such a POS, then how is this even possible ?? i mean with your new super donkey-phuck billet top end and all ?? ...

... are you that quick to admit Fulton might just whip that azz ?? ... i mean one minute your skull phuking the donkey with Fulton, and now you're already making excuses about pound for pound stuff ?? ...

... please make up your mind already, either you hate them, or you don't ... and for the record, what will the red sled weigh this year Jack ?? because i think you and Fulton will be closer in weight than you'd like to admit ...

So scale them then

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... how many times have you stated the heads suck, they don't make power' they can't make 1000hp, etc etc ?? ...

... but after years of your bashing and slamming, when i ask if you've considered Fulton may well hand you your azz, you don't deny, in fact you make an excuse based on pound for pound ?? This aint boxing Jack ...

... if the head is such a POS, then how is this even possible ?? i mean with your new super donkey-phuck billet top end and all ?? ...

... are you that quick to admit Fulton might just whip that azz ?? ... i mean one minute your skull phuking the donkey with Fulton, and now you're already making excuses about pound for pound stuff ?? ...

... please make up your mind already, either you hate them, or you don't ... and for the record, what will the red sled weigh this year Jack ?? because i think you and Fulton will be closer in weight than you'd like to admit ...

N2o and lots of it

[mysticmissle]

Still need to master the concept of letting your actions and results speak for your words. The names have changed on the cv side but the idea of We Will doesn't have the same cache as We DID. Until you do its just lip and snake oil.

[GTO Dan]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... do you really think my 572 won't make 1,000hp+ ?? ...

Based on what you do for a living, the companies you work for, the size of that engine and the head layout on that engine it better make 1,000+ on the DYNO and show it at the track.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

.... I don't think so .... Mike doesn't strike me as that type ...

... why are you so worried about CV-1 production Jack, if a set shows up and spanks you, then production status doesn't matter ...

... you should talk less and work more, as you'll have your work cut out for you Jack ...

... do you really think my 572 won't make 1,000hp+ ?? ...

If that POS doesn't make 1200 HP you should melt it down!!!!!

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Had no idea 100 pairs were sold.

didnt you read the thread that the ECM hurt his business and he cant make anymore heads? He is sold out of heads and I thought thats a good thing!!

EHTTFMF

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by GTO Dan

Based on what you do for a living, the companies you work for, the size of that engine and the head layout on that engine it better make 1,000+ on the DYNO and show it at the track.

A 572 c.i. max effort should make 1150 min for a head that flows as much as ttbill says it does.

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

If that POS doesn't make 1200 HP you should melt it down!!!!!

DIDTHATJUSTHAPPEN

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

didnt you read the thread that the ECM hurt his business and he cant make anymore heads? He is sold out of heads and I thought thats a good thing!!

EHTTFMF

Jeff,
So selling 100 pairs of heads over what 5 years, which is an average of 20 pair per year means that his business was doing good?

Stan

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

If that POS doesn't make 1200 HP you should melt it down!!!!!

Lil Jack,
Since you are so good at predicting how much HP Bill's motor should make or he should melt it down!! How much HP is your POS going to make or you will should melt it down!!!!!

Stan

[slowbird]

E-heads, HP and Tigers heads have made around 2.4hp/cfm the cv1 should be able to match that, right? So 480cfm is 1150hp, 500cfm is 1200hp, what do Bill's heads flow? Also 1150 to 1200hp is between 2 to 2.09 hp/ci which should be more than doable. So Kinlser's min hp of 1150hp seems reasonable

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

If that POS doesn't make 1200 HP you should melt it down!!!!!

there has not been a single 4 tiger headed motor that made over 1160 to my knowledge.

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by slowbird

E-heads, HP and Tigers heads have made around 2.4hp/ci the cv1 should be able to match that, right? So 480cfm is 1150hp, 500cfm is 1200hp, what do Bill's heads flow? Also 1150 to 1200hp is between 2 to 2.09 hp/ci which should be more than doable. So Kinlser's min hp of 1150hp seems reasonable

as the stroke goes up the hp per cube will go down....not always the case.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by slowbird

E-heads, HP and Tigers heads have made around 2.4hp/ci the cv1 should be able to match that, right? So 480cfm is 1150hp, 500cfm is 1200hp, what do Bill's heads flow? Also 1150 to 1200hp is between 2 to 2.09 hp/ci which should be more than doable. So Kinlser's min hp of 1150hp seems reasonable

slowbird,
Can you tell me who has made 2.4 HP / ci with a Pontiac engine? I know of only two who are in that area. Pickett and John Marcella

Stan

@ 2.4 HP / CI
___CI_________HP
400.0000______960
410.0000______984
420.0000_____1008
430.0000_____1032
440.0000_____1056
450.0000_____1080
460.0000_____1104
470.0000_____1128
480.0000_____1152
490.0000_____1176
500.0000_____1200
510.0000_____1224
520.0000_____1248
530.0000_____1272
540.0000_____1296
550.0000_____1320
560.0000_____1344
570.0000_____1368
580.0000_____1392
590.0000_____1416

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

as the stroke goes up the hp per cube will go down....not always the case.

You think 2hp/ci is asking to much from a canted valve head, sheet metal intake and two 4's with a 4.750 stroke?

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

slowbird,
Can you tell me who has made 2.4 HP / ci with a Pontiac engine? I know of only two who are in that area. Pickett and John Marcella

Stan

@ 2.4 HP / CI
___CI_________HP
400.0000______960
410.0000______984
420.0000_____1008
430.0000_____1032
440.0000_____1056
450.0000_____1080
460.0000_____1104
470.0000_____1128
480.0000_____1152
490.0000_____1176
500.0000_____1200
510.0000_____1224
520.0000_____1248
530.0000_____1272
540.0000_____1296
550.0000_____1320
560.0000_____1344
570.0000_____1368
580.0000_____1392
590.0000_____1416

Sorry that 2.4 should be hp/cfm not hp/ci